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  • #11
    After reading a few biographies on fighters that dealt with King and his fighters and also books on sports management that broached the subject of his business practices, there are three main ways in which he allegedly defrauded his fighters:

    1. Complicated contracts. As previously mentioned in this thread, King’s lawyers were very good about adding in ambiguous stipulations and self-serving clauses that he could use to reduce or even cancel “promised” payments to either fighter. If King didn’t like the financial outcome of a fight, he would simply refer back to the provisions in the contract as a reason for non-payment. He would then tell fighters who balked at not being paid that if they took him to court the case would last for several months (if not years) and the cost of retaining legal representation would be significant. Or, they could simply agree to his terms and get paid immediately. Most fighters took the deal.

    2. The “Under the Table” payment. In this scam King would tell a fighter about the “evils” of the U.S. Government and the IRS and how it loved to steal the money of black fighters. He would then say because he liked and respected the fighter so much and didn’t want to see him lose his money to the government, he would sign him to a false contract. The contract would stipulate the fighter would receive one amount but King promised he would actually pay the fighter a much larger amount that was off the books after the fight was over. You can probably guess what came next. After the fight King would tell the fighter that there were unexpected costs and that he didn’t make as much as he thought. Because of that he couldn’t pay the fighter anything more that was in the contract. The fighter couldn’t do anything about it was his word against King’s and King had signed a contract as evidence. Plus, the fighter would also have to admit he was trying to defraud the U.S. Government, which could equal jail time.

    3. The Suitcase Trick. This one is comically sad and was allegedly used on many fighters, including Ali. In this scenario, King would outright refuse to pay a fighter the full amount he owed him for whatever reason he wanted. If the fighter threatened court, King would come to the fighter with a suitcase or duffel bag full of money (usually large denominations) and would use it to settle out of court. He banked on the fact most fighters were uneducated and would light up at the sight of a bag full of money and would happily take it as full payment. More often than not, he was correct. Meanwhile it was estimated that the total value of the money in the bag was only a fraction of what he actually owed the fighter. It’s estimated that King stole millions of dollars from fighters over the years by using this tactic.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by bukakke View Post
      I always heard people call don King corrupt, a thief, and that he steals from his fighters. But anyone know how he did it?

      From what I heard Tyson got an excess of 20 million dollars a fight and at one time was worth over 300 million dollars. If Tyson had that much and than wasted it all I don't know how you can blame it on King. Also Tyson was known to be wasteful, he would just abandon Porsche's and Mercedes on the road when they ran out of gas. Not to mention he abandoned an expensive mansion in Ohio.
      No one that knows anything is blaming King for Tysons excessive spending. I believe King did take too much from fighters because so many of them sued him later on. No one can answer exactly how he did it because no one knows. King being a very smart business man had his way of covering things up so nothing could be traced back to him.

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      • #13
        I spent some time with former featherweight champion Tom Johnson. We got together with the intention of me writing his auto biography. Tom was a super nice guy but he got very upset when speaking of Don King. I don't recall which fight this happened with but Don King told Tom that he HAD to train at Kings personal training camp for the title defense or the fight was going to be called off. So Tom agrees and spends the next 2 or 3 months training at Kings camp. He defends his title and King pays him a mere fraction of what the contract stipulated. Tom said that King charged him $7,500 or $15,000 a day that he spent at Kings camp. Damned if you do and damned if you don't with King. Tom was a world champion with a record number of defenses with the ibf featherweight title, today he's broke living with his brother in a big part because of King aswell as hanger ons...........Rockin'

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Feint View Post
          After reading a few biographies on fighters that dealt with King and his fighters and also books on sports management that broached the subject of his business practices, there are three main ways in which he allegedly defrauded his fighters:

          1. Complicated contracts. As previously mentioned in this thread, King’s lawyers were very good about adding in ambiguous stipulations and self-serving clauses that he could use to reduce or even cancel “promised” payments to either fighter. If King didn’t like the financial outcome of a fight, he would simply refer back to the provisions in the contract as a reason for non-payment. He would then tell fighters who balked at not being paid that if they took him to court the case would last for several months (if not years) and the cost of retaining legal representation would be significant. Or, they could simply agree to his terms and get paid immediately. Most fighters took the deal.

          2. The “Under the Table” payment. In this scam King would tell a fighter about the “evils” of the U.S. Government and the IRS and how it loved to steal the money of black fighters. He would then say because he liked and respected the fighter so much and didn’t want to see him lose his money to the government, he would sign him to a false contract. The contract would stipulate the fighter would receive one amount but King promised he would actually pay the fighter a much larger amount that was off the books after the fight was over. You can probably guess what came next. After the fight King would tell the fighter that there were unexpected costs and that he didn’t make as much as he thought. Because of that he couldn’t pay the fighter anything more that was in the contract. The fighter couldn’t do anything about it was his word against King’s and King had signed a contract as evidence. Plus, the fighter would also have to admit he was trying to defraud the U.S. Government, which could equal jail time.

          3. The Suitcase Trick. This one is comically sad and was allegedly used on many fighters, including Ali. In this scenario, King would outright refuse to pay a fighter the full amount he owed him for whatever reason he wanted. If the fighter threatened court, King would come to the fighter with a suitcase or duffel bag full of money (usually large denominations) and would use it to settle out of court. He banked on the fact most fighters were uneducated and would light up at the sight of a bag full of money and would happily take it as full payment. More often than not, he was correct. Meanwhile it was estimated that the total value of the money in the bag was only a fraction of what he actually owed the fighter. It’s estimated that King stole millions of dollars from fighters over the years by using this tactic.
          Best post of all time.

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          • #15
            The good old days when Don King was in power,in the public eye and putting on some of the greatest boxing cards ever!


            I miss those days.

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            • #16
              tyson was just eager to sign the contract, am sure king just made him sign it

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