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Originally posted by JASON SHAW
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If Haymon can deliver that Leo vs Santa Cruz fight next year, I will take back everything I said about him. -
Which is what I said in my post explaining budget allocation. Not only did we get that fight we also got Lomachenko vs. Walters due to the Canelo fight not happening in DecemberOriginally posted by TheCell8 View Post
Walters will pick up $300k to Lomachenko's $1m purse tonight. #LomachenkoWalters
— LiveFight.com (@LiveFight) November 26, 2016
So we're looking at $3.2 mil (these are only the main event purses) being freed up just because Canelo didn't fight in December. He wasn't fighting GGG in December. He wasn't fighting anyone competitive in December. The December fight would've been worse than Smith. So HBO is willing to allocate $3.2 mil for a Canelo mismatch. The shrinking budget excuse is old and tired. Nelson is doing a horrible job at allocating the budget.Comment
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leo vs carl i meant...... Haymon can make anything happen though...Originally posted by boxing logic View PostComment
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on free tv. On cable tv spike he didn't even have 700k views ****Originally posted by JASON SHAW View PostComment
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[QUOTE=killakali;17317279]on free tv. On cable tv spike he didn't even have 700k views ****[/QUO
700K IS MORE THAN WHAT CANELA AND GOLDEN GIRLS LAST 2 PPVS DID HAHAAHAHAH... STOP CRYING ****Comment
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When guys ask for more money than the budget allows, they're put on ppv. Sometimes ppv failures are a good thing, a guy might get a perspective of his worth. It's either gonna work for some fighters, like Canelo-Khan, or it won't for guys like Crawford-Postol.
Besides, boxing dug its own depressions; people can only regret buying ppvs for so long before they finally decide they're not buying the next one. And nowadays it's far easier to access ppv by stream.
edit: and some fighters are just plain overpaid and take too much from the budget.Last edited by SCEN3RY; 12-30-2016, 04:28 PM.Comment
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The slump has nothing to do with May vs Pac and everything to do with average match ups that only hard core fans really know anything about .
May Pac was for the majority bought by casuals that got hooked up into the 5yr hype machine of the 2 biggest names in boxing, how the fck can you compare that fight to these Canelo Smith type deals .
The casual fans that bought May Pac are not turning into regular boxing fans, they were the hype connected group that rarely buy boxing events .
They try and blame the May Pac anti climax on everything thats wrong with boxing which is a pile of BS, if boxing made the fights people WANT to see they will buy it, dont expect them to buy average fights that nobody wants .Comment
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Yeah because Kovalev, who was the true undisputed LHW champion and one of the top 5 P4P boxers in the world, made such a killing off the PPV with Ward! The fact that Ward as the challenger, who was unproven since his return from a long hiatus, made more than twice what Kovalev made for their PPV fight is indicative of the lack of consistency and equality in the boxing world. With the plethora of promoters, commissions, belts and rankings, any thought of regulations and necessary enforcement is a non factor.Originally posted by KRAFTSMAN View Post
While I agree that there are some greedy fighters out there who are only willing to sign a contract against a legitimate challenge for a major payday, which is preventing a lot of 50/50 matchups from happening, the precedent has already been set by promoters who mismanage their investments and overpay their stable of contenders and title holders for mediocre match ups that cost more than they end up earning.
Rankings and undefeated records are totally meaningless unless you retain them with competitive match ups against high level opponents. Unfortunately, such actions are rarely enforced by the governing bodies due to a multitude of limiting factors including lack of participation between promoters, dubious commission rankings, the sheer number of titles available per division and a variety of other excuses and alternatives available to the fighter not interested in taking a risk to prove their supposed, often self-proclaimed superiority.Comment
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You completely misunderstand the effect of the May/Pac PPV on not only subsequent PPVs but pro boxing in general. It's not the fact that a lot of people, casuals and hardcore fans alike, bought the May/Pac PPV that has damaged boxing's reputation and fan base, it's the fact that what was supposed to be boxing's biggest and most exciting match up in years, which was endlessly promoted as a must see event that would be boxing's finest hour in the modern age of the fight game, ended up being anticlimactic and uneventful.Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
Casual fans in particular, who were prospective dedicated fans, predominantly abandoned boxing completely after the fight that was supposed to bring boxing back to the main stage failed to deliver on its potential greatness.Comment
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[QUOTE=JASON SHAW;17317445]canelo did over 2.1 million on hbo vs kirkland more than triple that garcia did on spike tv which is in 2x more houses than hbo ***ggot hahahahahahahaOriginally posted by killakali View PostComment
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