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  • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    the IBF do not recognize multiple champions in a single division, proving that the WBA "regular" title is excess baggage..... which is why the WBA have pledged to remove them
    Wrong. They have pledged to remove the super titles. The super titles are the new titles. The world titles are the titles that have always existed. They even made a new belt for the super title. The super champion isn't given the traditional WBA world championship belt, they are given the new super belt.

    Bivol isn't super champion, he is world champion. Are you claiming he holds the "regular" title and not the WBA world title?

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    • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
      Blatant lie. The WBA ratings have always listed the WBA world champion, never "WBA regular champion." You completely made that up.

      that was a joke you cornball

      " sooooo embarrassing "


      Have been closely studying the sport since 1988.

      what, and you did not know that the WBA titles are/were super, regular, interim..... for the longest time?

      I call bullshlt !

      you are either full-of-shlt, and have been following this sport for 5 minutes..... or you are playing the clown, as you pretend to have never heard the term "regular"..... despite the fact that term is used extensively by Mendoza himself LMAO


      Called that by others, sure, but those were never the actual names of the titles. The WBA ratings, each and every month, for 18 years, have clearly stated WBA world champion.

      BULLSHlT !!

      1) I have posted a number of quotes proving that Mendoza himself uses that term extensively LOL

      2) FACT: the 3x WBA titles were called the super, regular, and interim..... for a LOOOOONG time kid

      3) the proof..... dating back to at least 2001
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...orld_champions

      what the fk is wrong with you

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      • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        what, and you did not know that the WBA titles are/were super, regular, interim..... for the longest time?
        Name the month and year that WBA ratings were issued with the terminology "regular champion" and not "world champion."

        You can't.

        The WBA has never had a championship called the "regular championship." That is a slang term created by the media to describe a WBA world champion in a weight class that also has a WBA super champion.

        Does Bivol hold the regular title or not?

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        • Originally posted by wbc wba ibf View Post
          wrong. they have pledged to remove the super titles. the super titles are the new titles. The world titles are the titles that have always existed. They even made a new belt for the super title. The super champion isn't given the traditional wba world championship belt, they are given the new super belt.

          Bivol isn't super champion, he is world champion. Are you claiming he holds the "regular" title and not the wba world title?


          link..... ?

          the wba have become a pariah among the four boxing sanctioning bodies in recent years due to their invention of secondary ‘regular’ world titles. boxing fans are already frustrated with the fact that we have four organisations and four titles, but the wba decided to then create an additional title within their own organisation!

          They have the wba ‘super’ champion (widely recognised as the real champion) and the wba ‘regular’ champion (not considered a genuine champion by many observers).

          Boxing fans rejoiced when gilberto mendoza set out his plan to finally scrap these secondary ‘regular’ titles by the beginning of 2018, however he delayed this plan last year and said he hoped it would get done by 2019.

          how did this situation begin? It started because two champions equaled the wba doubling their sanctioning fees, which mendoza realized did more harm than good in the long run. this created the situation involving the “regular” champion being less respected and confusion over who exactly is the recognized champion in each division.

          While some divisions seem to have been straightened out, issues still linger with gennady golovkin at middleweight, and leo santa cruz and abner mares at featherweight, and anthony joshua as the super heavyweight champion, and the regular title currently vacant.

          Mendoza hopes to eliminate the problem by 2019.


          “i am focused on only having a single champion [in each weight class]. There are members of the past directory that say there are weight categories that deserve a regular champion where there is a super champion, but i am very fussy about that subject.”


          general title confusion

          for background, the wba generally recognises two world champions in every weight division, a “super champion” and a “regular champion”. The “super champion” title is seen as the more prestigious of the two, and the creation of the regular title seems farcical.

          the creation of several belts in the same weight division has led a mess in the wba system, and it’s not only the heavyweight division that is experiencing multiple champions. Bantamweight also has three wba champions – ryan burnett (super), naoya inoue (regular) and reymart gaballo (interim), as does the featherweight division – with leo sante cruz (super), jesús rojas (regular) and jhack tepora (interim).

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          • tell me again how the term " regular " is not used by the WBA


            "Klitschko vs. Joshua is for the super championship, Briggs Vs Oquendo is for the regular title. The winner of the first match must go before Luis Ortiz and the winer of the second against Alexander Ustinov," Mendoza said"


            NOTE: (and here is the point you keep choosing to miss)..... ALL of those guys mentioned above, are fighting in the SAME competition.....

            stop being a dropkick

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            • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              link..... ?
              You keep quoting a bunch of unofficial sources that don't know what they're talking about or are purposely using incorrect nomenclature to dumb things down for fans who are easily confused by sanctioning body insanity.

              Here is the list of champions on the WBA website:

              http://www.wbaboxing.com/wba-champions#.XBiy2FVKjDc

              "Regular champion" isn't listed anywhere. There's no such thing. Go through the WBA ratings from the last 18 years, you won't find a single set of ratings with "regular champions" listed instead of world champions.

              Yes, you can find quotes from Mendoza where he uses the terminology the public is familiar with, due to the media insisting on using the term "regular champion," but the regular championship isn't an actual thing. It doesn't actually exist. It just means "WBA world championship in a weight class that currently has a super champion."

              Nobody refers to Bivol as "regular champion" even though he holds the WBA world title and not the WBA super title.

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              • mendoza set out his plan to finally scrap these secondary ‘regular’ titles by the beginning of 2018.....


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                • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                  You keep quoting a bunch of unofficial sources that don't know what they're talking about or are purposely using incorrect nomenclature to dumb things down for fans who are easily confused by sanctioning body insanity.

                  Here is the list of champions on the WBA website:

                  http://www.wbaboxing.com/wba-champions#.XBiy2FVKjDc

                  "Regular champion" isn't listed anywhere. There's no such thing. Go through the WBA ratings from the last 18 years, you won't find a single set of ratings with "regular champions" listed instead of world champions.

                  Yes, you can find quotes from Mendoza where he uses the terminology the public is familiar with, due to the media insisting on using the term "regular champion," but the regular championship isn't an actual thing. It doesn't actually exist. It just means "WBA world championship in a weight class that currently has a super champion."

                  Nobody refers to Bivol as "regular champion" even though he holds the WBA world title and not the WBA super title.




                  mendoza set out his plan to finally scrap these secondary ‘regular’ titles by the beginning of 2018.....


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                  • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    Again, you quote inaccurate reporting to try to justify a false position.

                    This argument with you is a perfect example of why this WBC WBA IBF account was necessary. There is so much misinformation about the sanctioning bodies that even when you are faced with definitive proof, you've been so brainwashed by the media that you can't help but quoting shoddy reporting over and over even when the WBA's own official ratings clearly state WORLD CHAMPION not regular champion.

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                    • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                      Nobody refers to Bivol as "regular champion" even though he holds the WBA world title and not the WBA super title.


                      The World Boxing Association (WBA) Championships Committee elevated Russian Dmitry Bivol to World Light Heavyweight Champion.

                      The decision to elevate Bivol, who was Interim Champion until then, was made after the belt was vacated by the resignation of Badou Jack.

                      According to WBA Rule C.28, when there is a vacant title, the Committee may elevate the Interim Champion at discretion or order a match between the division’s two best-ranked boxers to define the champion.

                      In this case, it was decided to elevate to Bivol since the Committee considered that he meets all the requirements to be named regular World Champion.

                      Bivol will have to have his first mandatory fight before July 25, 2018, and can make voluntary defenses up to 60 days before that date.

                      Thus, the 175-pound division has only one World Champion and the Interim Championship for this weight class has been eliminated.

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