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  • Ted Cruz totally outclassed Bernie Sanders in last night’s debate

    CNN is to be commended for their sponsorship of the tax debate between Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) last night. It was a serious, informative discussion about an important issue in Washington. Imagine that.

    During the debate, Cruz did himself — and the Republican Party — a lot of good. He maintained a friendly, informative and nimble presence, effectively outlining the case that GOP tax reform is part of an overall economic plan, whereas Sanders’s call for tax increases for the rich appeared to be knee-jerk and punitive rather than part of a serious economic policy. And even though the mainstream media would never admit it, if there were ever a contest to determine who is the “thinking person’s” candidate, Cruz would beat Sanders by a mile.

    I was surprised at how Sanders stuck to the same basic liberal platitudes of more taxes and more spending and the socialist call for free college. The debate showed just how limited Sanders’s range is as a politician. He has a few new socialist slogans but no real plans.

    When Cruz asked Sanders, “since this is a tax debate, what is the difference between a socialist and a Democrat on taxes,” Sanders answered pointedly, “I don’t know the answer to that.” I thought Sanders would have been better prepared and had something new to say. But by essentially admitting that there was no difference between a socialist and a Democrat, Sanders made an important point — one that has been made clear since last November. And that is that the Democratic Party is in the middle of an astonishing lurch to the left. With Sanders as their standard-bearer, the Democrats are embracing his positions: more government activism, more government giveaways and the nanny state unleashed.

    Regardless, the Republican Party was well represented by Cruz. Cruz generously noted that Sanders may have very well won the Democratic Party’s nomination for president last year had it not been for corruption within the Democratic National Committee. So, as Hillary Clinton fades into wacky conspiracies about a “cyber-9/11” costing her the election and is mostly silenced by her own history that disqualifies her from taking a powerful stand in the Harvey Weinstein saga, Sanders is the Democrats’ face and de facto leader. And Cruz effectively showed just how limiting that may be for the Democratic Party.

    Cruz is a talented champion of conservative principles. He did a good job of highlighting the differences between the Sanders-style socialist model and the GOP’s pro-growth, pro-jobs policies. The dichotomy between low taxes and growth vs. high taxes and socialism could not have been made any clearer. The difference between the two is exactly what the next elections should be about if Trump’s antics don’t hijack the discussion and make 2018 and 2020 referendums on his character and behavior.

    Source:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...nights-debate/

  • #2
    I had no idea they debated.

    Got lost in the shuffle with MLB playoffs, NBA, etc

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      I had no idea they debated.

      Got lost in the shuffle with MLB playoffs, NBA, etc
      I thought I was the only one..who didn't know.

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      • #4
        I'd bet it's online, likely on YouTube.

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        • #5
          OP wouldn't be partisan would he? No way

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          • #6
            Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and has never been a Democrat, so this continued push to elevate Bernie Sanders as the "voice of Democrats" will continue to fall flat, just as it did with the healthcare "debate" and what I'm assuming happened in the tax "debate" as well.

            You add that, if the healthcare debate was anything like the tax debate, Ted Cruz likely avoided most of the actual topics being discussed in the actual Republican proposals.

            Tim Ryan is an actual Democrat (In a perfect world, you'd have Elizabeth Warren or Chris Van Hollen standing for the Democrats, Rep. Ryan isn't a bad alternative); why not have Cruz vs Ryan?

            Stick to the actual topic and see how Ted Cruz actually gets around explaining the tax raise on working families who no longer get their personal exemptions, offsets for their home, or offsets for their local taxes, or how he defends the elimination of the estate tax as not really being a massive tax cut for the wealthy, or the almost instantaneous flip on if deficits actually matter.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
              OP wouldn't be partisan would he? No way
              Depends on how you define partisan.

              I'm a Libertarian in terms of party affiliation.

              But I vote candidates over party.

              Cruz is one I agree with on most issues. I've voted for him for Senator and voted for him in the 2016 primaries.

              That said, what's your thoughts on the debate?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and has never been a Democrat, so this continued push to elevate Bernie Sanders as the "voice of Democrats" will continue to fall flat, just as it did with the healthcare "debate" and what I'm assuming happened in the tax "debate" as well.
                Lmao!!

                Yeah, he only caucuses with and ran for President as a Democrat.

                If you'd read the article, you'd see Sanders couldn't cite a difference in tax policy between a socialist like himself and the Democrats.

                Maybe don't go full-on contrarian and not bother to first read the article in question next time.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
                  Lmao!!

                  Yeah, he only caucuses with and ran for President as a Democrat.

                  If you'd read the article, you'd see Sanders couldn't cite a difference in tax policy between a socialist like himself and the Democrats.

                  Maybe don't go full-on contrarian and not bother to first read the article in question next time.
                  Except that he didn't run as a Demcrat; the Democratic Party let him run in the primary, but he's still yet to formally even consider changing his affiliation.

                  If Sanders doesn't understand Democratic thinking, and doesn't care to understand Democratic thinking, how in the heck is he supposed to speak to the differences between what he believes and what Democrats believe?

                  No mention of small-business tax cuts, no mention of expanded offsets for the middle class and working poor. Rather than actually address the topics, Bernie stays at 20k feet and parrots the same bull**** he's been parroting for the last 20 years.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
                    Depends on how you define partisan.

                    I'm a Libertarian in terms of party affiliation.

                    But I vote candidates over party.

                    Cruz is one I agree with on most issues. I've voted for him for Senator and voted for him in the 2016 primaries.

                    That said, what's your thoughts on the debate?
                    Isn't Cruz some religious wacko?

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