Would Klitschkos Have A Chance Against Haye If They Didn't Have Size Advantage?

[Boxing Bob]

here's the real question. If both of the brothers were castrated could either wear Hayes' G string? Dumb post!

[Dat]

Would Haye have a better chance against the Klitshckos if he was 6'8"?

The Klitschkos are what they are because of their physical attributes, skills and work ethic/determination. Same with Haye, he is what he is because of his speed, skills, and athleticism. If you change any part of the equation, then that's not the same person anymore.

Anyway Haye doesn't have a chance against the Klitshckos. But I think he will do fairly well against any other hw.

[Jam Jars]

There are plenty of fighters that are big as them...just cant fight a lick. Size advantage is just one advantage. Not the only reason why they win. If they would beat him now they'd beat him IF they were his size. If Haye cant beat then now. He'd never be able too!

Usually smaller size = more speed but less power and weaker punch resistance.

[MurkaMan]

If either of them were going to be robotic, it would be Vitali.

Wlad is not telegraphed, he is not robotic. Nor does him being slow, and kind of fast make sense.

Look at the hook he ended Chambers with. That was a dynamic and fast punch.

How many of their fights have you seen?

I havnt seen many of their trash fights, but from what I have seen, they are both very slow

[Capaedia]

Most of those things you mention are dependent on his size. He does have a great jab so that would carry over.

But he's difficult to hit because of his length, it allows him to position his body in a certain angle and distance. That wouldn't be half as effective if he was a smaller fighter.

He's difficult to hit because he's smart.

He controls range with his jab, and smothers anyone that gets inside the jab.

Boring, but effective

He controls distance again because of his longer reach due to his size.

His reach is an inch longer than Muhammad Ali's. Shorter than George Foreman's

He does have a great right hand when it lands but his body weight helps him with that power. If he was smaller but had the same body weight, he'd be slower.

His weight may have something to do with it, but it also has to do with how he conserves energy and has great technique for throwing his punches.

He's only able to smother that way again because of his size, he can force his weight down on to opponents.

He smothers because he is not afraid to be boring, and cannot fight inside. He would have a harder time smothering if he did not have a size advantage, but he finds it very easy at the moment. What's to say he wouldn't have as much success spoiling as Bernard Hopkins or Andre Ward, who do not enjoy such size advantages?

Most of those things are size-dependent, apart from the jab.

That's very unfair to Wlad. He's not the only guy his size, but he is along with his brother, the only one currently worth a damn.

I havnt seen many of their trash fights, but from what I have seen, they are both very slow

Which of their fights did you watch? Wlad-Sanders?

Check out his fights with Chambers, Thompson (I) or Rahman, or even just highlight videos. It's a shame he doesn't use his straight right and left hook more often, they're very quick and accurate, with a lot of power too.

Again, look at the left hook he finished Chambers with. It came from nowhere and made him go to sleep.

[MurkaMan]

He's difficult to hit because he's smart.

He controls range with his jab, and smothers anyone that gets inside the jab.

Boring, but effective



His reach is an inch longer than Muhammad Ali's. Shorter than George Foreman's



His weight may have something to do with it, but it also has to do with how he conserves energy and has great technique for throwing his punches.



He smothers because he is not afraid to be boring, and cannot fight inside. He would have a harder time smothering if he did not have a size advantage, but he finds it very easy at the moment. What's to say he wouldn't have as much success spoiling as Bernard Hopkins or Andre Ward, who do not enjoy such size advantages?



That's very unfair to Wlad. He's not the only guy his size, but he is along with his brother, the only one currently worth a damn.



Which of their fights did you watch? Wlad-Sanders?

Check out his fights with Chambers, Thompson (I) or Rahman, or even just highlight videos. It's a shame he doesn't use his straight right and left hook more often, they're very quick and accurate, with a lot of power too.

Again, look at the left hook he finished Chambers with. It came from nowhere and made him go to sleep.

No, Im not watching no old ass fights, fighters change each and every fight...The MAIN fight, was his latest with Haye, in which he was slow...both of them are big and slow

[StarshipTrooper]

No, Im not watching no old ass fights, fighters change each and every fight...The MAIN fight, was his latest with Haye, in which he was slow...both of them are big and slow

Define "old ass fights" please :thinking9:

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[Capaedia]

No, Im not watching no old ass fights, fighters change each and every fight...The MAIN fight, was his latest with Haye, in which he was slow...both of them are big and slow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_LYXtiusI8

Watch the highlights of that fight then. Maybe you got caught up in how boring it was.

Wlad was defensive and didn't do much. But when he did, not slow. Not by a long shot.

[Jam Jars]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_LYXtiusI8

Watch the highlights of that fight then. Maybe you got caught up in how boring it was.

Wlad was defensive and didn't do much. But when he did, not slow. Not by a long shot.

How the hell did they manage 8 mins of highlights?

[Capaedia]

How the hell did they manage 8 mins of highlights?

Slow-mo repeats are your friend