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GGG has "no skills doe" yet he's consistently among the top 3 on compubox plus/minus

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Hype Job View Post
    Plus minus is the gold standard.

    GGG also does well in the latest stats on punch output alongside Roman Gonzalez. (Don't have the stats atm but its on their twitter feed).
    Plus / minus is the bull**** standard. You can get a 100% connect percentage by throwing 1 punch a round as long as you land it.

    The most useful metric to take out of compubox when comparing fighters is the ratio of punches landed to opponents punches landed, which you have to calculate yourself.

    Last time I went through it, Kovalev and Golovkin were ranked pretty much at the top with about 2.5/1 but that was before either of their most recent fights, however statistically given the number of fights the sample is taken from their recent relatively less dominant performances won't bring that down too far.

    Lomachenko came in hard though with about a 3/1 ratio, which is about the highest there's been in recent years.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
      Plus / minus is the bull**** standard. You can get a 100% connect percentage by throwing 1 punch a round as long as you land it.

      The most useful metric to take out of compubox when comparing fighters is the ratio of punches landed to opponents punches landed, which you have to calculate yourself.

      Last time I went through it, Kovalev and Golovkin were ranked pretty much at the top with about 2.5/1 but that was before either of their most recent fights, however statistically given the number of fights the sample is taken from their recent relatively less dominant performances won't bring that down too far.

      Lomachenko came in hard though with about a 3/1 ratio, which is about the highest there's been in recent years.
      Yep a fighter could throw and land 1 punch giving 100%, then get hit with 75/100 punches from his opponent and be +25 on compubox plus/minus.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Hype Job View Post
        I believe this is the latest list:


        This is from when Mayweather was still active so 2015 at the latest. GGG was second. He was also shown to get hit less than Canelo.

        How much do you think the opponents quality effects these stats, Floyds are against ATGs and elite fighters, Gs best opponent was Danny Jacobs.

        Your point is really invalid in the context youre trying to use it.
        Last edited by Reloaded; 05-17-2017, 03:21 AM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
          How much do you think the opponents quality effects these stats, Floyds are against ATGs and elite fighters, Gs best opponent was Danny Jacobs.

          Your point is really invalid in the context youre trying to use it.
          Compared to Floyd yes.

          The broader point I'm trying to make is that it's a myth that GGG is just a limited brawler overly reliant on power.

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          • #25
            look at who he was fighting man

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            • #26
              Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
              look at who he was fighting man
              They become bums after GGG destroys them.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
                Probably what they'll point out instead is that the list is older than his fight with Jacobs and that GGG did not rank well in any of the other categories, which TS conveniently leaves out

                Just my guess anyway



                lol.............

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Hype Job View Post
                  They become bums after GGG destroys them.
                  no they were bums when he signed to fight them

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Hype Job View Post
                    Canelo "looks" like the slicker fighter, like he has better head movement/defence, but it's more style over substance.

                    Golovkin's head movement doesn't look as pretty as Canelo's. But it's more effective.
                    GGG is subtle he doesn't show off.
                    GGG is elite skills as he's elite boxer.
                    He isn't the most powerful. What like his arms are like 13inches flexed

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                    • #30
                      Of course GGG is skilled. You don't need compubox to tell you that. Any one who has seen him fight can attest to it, those that do not are lying, which is pathetic considering they aren't even fooling themselves lol

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