Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz's Coach Claims Hearn is Not Telling The Whole Story

[Sid-Knee]

I'd say it's pretty clear, I called them all out. Ortiz being a coward is implied in him not being able to get his story straight 3 different versions in as many weeks, utter silence when it mattered most.

All the top heavyweights have been playing the avoidance game these past couple of years and it's just boring as hell to listen to their BS excuses.

With regards to AJ I like the kid, but there's no doubt he's been playing the silly games too, not in this case with Ortiz, but I believe they could have done more to land the fight with Wilder if they wanted, and the same goes for Wilder he talks big and then lines up the next bin man or hasbeen. They're all guilty.

AJ has offered the weak B side Wilder 40%. When has this been done by a huge A side? When has a huge A side given a rematch clause? AJ has even offered to fight on US soil. All these concessions and not one by Wilder. Can you give me a single fighter in history to give all this when they're the big A side?

AJ has done all he can to get these cowards into the ring. What else can he do? The latest offer to Wilder was 100 Mill. What offers are Wilder's side giving out?

[Sid-Knee]

How about the 50 mil offer others seen but not Hearn?And how about how ALL the fighters he has tried to make deals with that say he is full of shi te(Whyte,Wilder,Ortiz)Your a little keyboard tough guy with a picture of AJ hanging above your bed at mommy's.BTW how is that Brexit deal going?You guys voted that in lmao.Maybe I would look at my own problems before putting down someone else lol.

Hearn is a liar because he didn't see the contract that others did? How does that make him a liar? And how does that even make sense to you?

You mean fighters that are jumping on the bandwagon and shifting blame elsewhere due to them being cowards? Shock horror. For Hearn to be a liar, you would be able to point out those "Lies"?

Dude, you have that ****** Trump as president. You lose all rights to talk about any nation when it comes to politics. You're the worlds laughing stock.

[aboutfkntime]

For Hearn to have lied, he would have needed to say it was next only to go back on his word once contracts were signed. Did he do this? No he didn't.

The only one who forgot his pen was Wilder. Finkle said he accepted the offer, only to contradict that a few weeks later by saying they didn't accept it.

Deal with those facts you weirdo. All this you wrote is nothing but fantasy you and the other weirdos created in your heads.

did you just admit that Hearn attempted to delay the fight ?

and the only reason why you cannot technically call Hearn a liar, it because Wilder was too smart to get hustled?

is.... that.... what.... you.... just.... said.... sid ? :lol:

FACT: if Joshua and Hearn really wanted that fight..... they would not have shat themselves when Wilder accepted their 15m low-ball..... they would not have refused to include basic wording in the contract binding Joshua to the agreement..... and Joshua would have signed the fkn thing, you excuse-making muppet LMAO

how you fcukboys can delude yourselves to the extent that you will argue that Team Bullshlt really wanted that fight, is curiously fascinating

[Sid-Knee]

did you just admit that Hearn attempted to delay the fight ?

and the only reason why you cannot technically call Hearn a liar, it because Wilder was too smart to get hustled?

is.... that.... what.... you.... just.... said.... sid ? :lol:

FACT: if Joshua and Hearn really wanted that fight..... they would not have shat themselves when Wilder accepted their 15m low-ball..... they would not have refused to include basic wording in the contract binding Joshua to the agreement..... and Joshua would have signed the fkn thing, you excuse-making muppet LMAO

how you fcukboys can delude yourselves to the extent that you will argue that Team Bullshlt really wanted that fight, is curiously fascinating

You read my post and came to the conclusion that I was admitting in some way that Hearn was delaying the fight?

F3ck off you weirdo. Go and take your meds. You're seeing things that are not there. Creating shlt in your head and casting it down as truth even though the facts go against you. Go away child.

[aboutfkntime]

You read my post and came to the conclusion that I was admitting in some way that Hearn was delaying the fight?

F3ck off you weirdo. Go and take your meds. You're seeing things that are not there. Creating shlt in your head and casting it down as truth even though the facts go against you. Go away child.

just because Wilder was too smart to sign an empty contract that did not contain wording that guaranteed Joshua next..... you think that Hearn did not lie?

"For Hearn to have lied, he would have needed to say it was next only to go back on his word once contracts were signed"

he obviously tried to hustle Wilder you half-wit

to keep him on a leash, away from Joshua..... and give his guys like Whyte opportunities to beat the boogieman who is threatening his cash-cow

either way..... you admitted that Hearn made nothing remotely close to a genuine effort to make that fight

he said that Joshua would be next, but he did not include wording in the contract supporting that promise.... which is why Joshua did not sign it..... which is why Wilder did not sign it

come on man, give those childish excuses a rest

[sayf]

AJ has offered the weak B side Wilder 40%. When has this been done by a huge A side? When has a huge A side given a rematch clause? AJ has even offered to fight on US soil. All these concessions and not one by Wilder. Can you give me a single fighter in history to give all this when they're the big A side?

AJ has done all he can to get these cowards into the ring. What else can he do? The latest offer to Wilder was 100 Mill. What offers are Wilder's side giving out?

There's no denying the recent offers were real and more than generous, even coming from DAZN and not Hearn, so Wilder was really caught running scared on that occasion.

I was alluding to the initial offers this time last year and before.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Ortiz is on Takam or Chisora level at best. he just doesn`t fight a very good competition, that`s why he has only 1 loss.

Match him with Takam and he will have a hard night.

[doom_specialist]

Hearn said the money was there. But only found out about BT soon after. Therefore they couldn't have taken the deal anyway.

Warren and Dibella confirmed BT was involved. Finkle even said Sky could have the fight if they could match BT's offer. Search it out and you'll see for yourself.

No source strikes again.

[doom_specialist]

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...ification-bout


"Finkel, Wilder’s promoter, has now rejected Hearn’s claims and said the contract would be dispatched when Joshua accepted the offer."

From the same article:"They said we have to accept the fight by [Thursday], which is ridiculous when we have questions that need to be answered," Hearn said. "But we have a meeting on Friday, and we will go through the offer. I'd like to see a contract and see where the money is coming from, and the location of the fight is important. We don't have a problem doing it in America, even though we'd like to do it in the U.K."

The offer obviously extended past that Thursday, only to be ultimately declined expressly for the purpose of fighting in the UK. Your own sources are hurting your argument

https://metro.co.uk/2018/04/29/deont...hearn-7506781/

From this article: "In the latest string of emails between the two teams, Shelly Finkel has insisted to Matchroom boss Eddie Hearn no contracts will be sent over until Joshua formally accepts their offer.

The same thing some of your cronies insisted that Ortiz had to do, lest he be a dishonorable duck who doesn't want the fight

bronzebomber
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Since me and my team is not clear to some maybe ESPN Senior Boxing Writer danrafaelespn can be of some assistant 🤷🏿*♂️
We sent a deal over just like they did w/o contract.
The only difference is that we DECLINED their offer so, no need for a meeting w/contract. #Hypocrites at its finest. This is simple‼️
It’s like buying a house your not going to buy it w/o first Accepting the Price❗️then contract follows accordingly.
#BombZquad #TooGrownForTheGames #AcceptTheFightDamn #EnoughIsEnough

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiIBZXSn...ource=ig_embed

Not sure what the beef is there. Wilder declined their lowball, countered with $50M, only to be told that a contract had to be sent to accept the offer. You guys have made a big deal out of Ortiz having to accept a deal before a contract is sent, yet Wilder's case isn't being interpreted with the same logic.

All evidence of refusing meetings, contracts and no attempt to box Hearn in just lame old excuses. When you buy a house you view it to check all the details and meet with the agents selling it to and then agree the price, poor analogy.


Luis Ortiz stuff:

Ortiz team declining fight

“After 5 days of BS we declined all of Hearn’s lowball offers and we are tired of his games. I know the magnitude of this fight. I wasn’t going to let Hearn bully me. Especially when I know they need Luis l. I mean who else could they really have to fight and that the public was willing to pay for?”

Offering Ortiz $5M when Jarell Miller was set to get $6.5M is a lowball.

“Listen, I like Joshua. I want him to continue to do good but I don’t see eye to eye with Hearn. He’s a cheat. I’m done with him. Hearn is a joke, go take advantage of some other fighter on short notice. I’m done with the games. My fighter is a top 3 heavyweight. Treat him like one.” Jorge Carmenate of Dade Promotions told BoxingScene.com.

Another fighter claiming that Hearn is no good, and hard to work with. Not a coincidence IMO.

https://www.boxingscene.com/team-lui...joshua--138278



Trainer saying promoter f'd up and whining 'contract probably would have been no good even though promoter stopped it getting that far' to save face.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ortiz-tr...-talks--138385

You posted more evidence for me than for you lol. Hearn turning down a deal due to there being no contract, and then trying to save face later is what you're saying Ortiz did, right? So we can call a spade a spade and say that Hearn is a slimy promoter like all the other promoters, right?

[Jax teller]

You posted more evidence for me than for you lol. Hearn turning down a deal due to there being no contract, and then trying to save face later is what you're saying Ortiz did, right? So we can call a spade a spade and say that Hearn is a slimy promoter like all the other promoters, right?

Hearns the UK equivalent of Haymon looks after his own.

But all of that backs what I said.

Hearn asked for a contract which got refused (Wilder made a load of piss poor excuses) then AJ declined.

Ortiz's promoter declined called Hearn a joke then Hearn threatened to expose them, they said they messed up saying then they come out and said they would accept a contract was sent too little too late.

The difference is in the order and that's the key.