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  • Originally posted by AllBoxingAD View Post
    No, because there has always been and always will be debate about what constitutes 'arms' and 'infringe'.

    Can you go out and buy rocket launchers and grenades man?
    No actually this whole "living, breathing Constitution" crap started under FDR. Anyways, words have meanings, infringe and arms are precisely defined.

    As to your question. You can own grenades, rocket launchers, tanks, automatic weapons and a whole slew of "military grade" arms. Your mileage to exactly what weapons and how to go about getting them, will vary by state. It is'nt easy, but all of these things are available and legal.

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    • Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
      You're a hypocrite. If you OK with government prohibiting weapons in certain situation then you're compromising.

      "muh 2nd 'mendment, doe"

      Well, for "obvious reasons" civilians should never have weapons like these or other automatic ones:



      You're dogmatic devotion to guns is irrational.
      It is'nt hypocritical for him to believe that at all. The problem is you are trying to wrap together the right to bear arms and property rights as if they are the same thing. The right to bear arms does'nt grant you the right to setup your weapons in your neighbors yard. With publicly owned land, that is up to us, as citizens, to decide what the rules are. But again, that is a property right issue not a gun control issue.

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        • Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post

          Our Founding Fathers disagreed.

          So one hand you have some of the most brilliant men in history, and on the other an opinion piece in the NYT.

          I'm going to have to go with our Founders on this one.

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          • Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
            Our Founding Fathers disagreed.

            So one hand you have some of the most brilliant men in history, and on the other an opinion piece in the NYT.

            I'm going to have to go with our Founders on this one.
            Thomas Jefferson owned slaves.

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            • Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
              Thomas Jefferson owned slaves.
              Non sequitur

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              • Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
                Thomas Jefferson owned slaves.
                And guns both freed and tried to keep slaves

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                • Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                  And guns both freed and tried to keep slaves
                  Notice the slave States didn't let the slaves have guns.

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                  • Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
                    Thomas Jefferson owned slaves.
                    Which should, to any thinking person, end the debate as to whether Jefferson was the final word on what is and isn't ethical.

                    I wonder at how spineless some people are, to worship an ancient bit of paper written by well meaning yet flawed humans.

                    To refuse to take the personal responsibility required for individual thought - to hand it all over, in the most obsequious way, to some dusty text - is an act of intellectual and ethical cowardice.

                    That cowardice which leads to the senseless death of so many Americans that it must be seen as an act of treason.

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                    • Canada had about 2000 doctor assisted suicides in its 1st year after it became legal.

                      https://www.yahoo.com/news/canadian-...212621726.html

                      Canada has a bit over 1/10 the population of the US.

                      The US has about 10 times the above number of suicides committed with a firearm.

                      Suicides make up about 2/3 of all deaths involving a firearm in the US.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vi..._United_States

                      Just some food for thought. We return you to your regularly scheduled US Constitution and founder bashing.

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