yamanaka is pretty overrated.in fact a lot of these japenese fighters get pretty overrated for some reaosn.
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The Fight Nobody is Talking About: Yamanaka vs Moreno
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostAh Anselmo Moreno, the media hype job top 10 P4P who was exposed and beaten easily by Mares.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I respect these guys and realise Yamanaka has power and has handled the opposition at his weightclass.....but he has no craftiness, no strategy, and is not an otherwordly athlete.....even his power is iffy to me since he failed to KO Darchinyan and only hurt him once or twice...about the only stoppage in his resume that indicates real power is KO'ing Guevara, who boxed decently and lasted 12 against the bigger Santa Cruz...... if Moreno doesn't get caught he probably spoils his way to an ugly win....and we've already seen Moreno's ceiling...
Potential snoozer between guys who while good fighters in their weights, have a low ceiling......I'll watch when I can, but not really excited....
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Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Postyamanaka is pretty overrated.in fact a lot of these japenese fighters get pretty overrated for some reaosn.
No more proof needed than a guy like Chocolatito being p4p #1 with a resume that doesn't earn him that.
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Originally posted by -Hyperion- View PostYep(though some idiots probably gave him every benefit of the doubt and scored that fight close)...this is the kind of fight hipsters of boxing get really excited about....
I mean, don't get me wrong, I respect these guys and realise Yamanaka has power and has handled the opposition at his weightclass.....but he has no craftiness, no strategy, and is not an otherwordly athlete.....even his power is iffy to me since he failed to KO Darchinyan and only hurt him once or twice...about the only stoppage in his resume that indicates real power is KO'ing Guevara, who boxed decently and lasted 12 against the bigger Santa Cruz...... if Moreno doesn't get caught he probably spoils his way to an ugly win....and we've already seen Moreno's ceiling...
Potential snoozer between guys who while good fighters in their weights, have a low ceiling......I'll watch when I can, but not really excited....
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Originally posted by -Hyperion- View PostI like lower weight fights for their action, but there's a wave of analysts and experts who overrate the **** out of them, either because they are overexcited with anything boxing or to prove they follow all the sport......and have been shaming other analysts/experts into rating them for not following these weightclasses/geographical regions... this causes a wave of hipster followers that overrate anything the "experts" say and follow blindly like sheep....
No more proof needed than a guy like Chocolatito being p4p #1 with a resume that doesn't earn him that.
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Originally posted by -Hyperion- View PostYep(though some idiots probably gave him every benefit of the doubt and scored that fight close)...this is the kind of fight hipsters of boxing get really excited about....
I mean, don't get me wrong, I respect these guys and realise Yamanaka has power and has handled the opposition at his weightclass.....but he has no craftiness, no strategy, and is not an otherwordly athlete.....even his power is iffy to me since he failed to KO Darchinyan and only hurt him once or twice...about the only stoppage in his resume that indicates real power is KO'ing Guevara, who boxed decently and lasted 12 against the bigger Santa Cruz...... if Moreno doesn't get caught he probably spoils his way to an ugly win....and we've already seen Moreno's ceiling...
Potential snoozer between guys who while good fighters in their weights, have a low ceiling......I'll watch when I can, but not really excited....
And yeah I don't know much about Yamanaka, I know he has been a top BW since 2011 and was #2 for a while.
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Originally posted by -Hyperion- View PostI like lower weight fights for their action, but there's a wave of analysts and experts who overrate the **** out of them, either because they are overexcited with anything boxing or to prove they follow all the sport......and have been shaming other analysts/experts into rating them for not following these weightclasses/geographical regions... this causes a wave of hipster followers that overrate anything the "experts" say and follow blindly like sheep....
No more proof needed than a guy like Chocolatito being p4p #1 with a resume that doesn't earn him that.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostYeah the funny thing is Mares got no P4P recognition for that win
http://******.craveonline.com/news/1...mares-advancesLast edited by crold1; 09-20-2015, 05:34 PM.
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Originally posted by crold1 View PostThat's not true. Mares moved into Ring's, ESPN's and our top ten off the Moreno win. And moved up in some before he got to Gonzalez. He was universally top ten before Jhonny.
http://******.craveonline.com/news/1...mares-advances
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