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Who’s the best between Crawford, Lomachenko & Spence?

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  • #31
    - Boxer was UNIFIED. (but he's at WW now and hasnt had 1 fight at that level)Undefeated
    - Boxer went to the Champions home and Won his belt (i guess your opinion of Brook is very low)Undefeated
    - Boxer with 11 professional fights with a loss to Salido.

    How is Garcia lower than Loma, when he's faced tougher comp, moved UP in weight class, beat Salido (if a loss to Salido is highly valued then SHOULDNT a VICTORY vs Salido be "highly valued"), Undefeated.
    Canelo has the supreme resume of the bunch.
    Kov only lost to WARd. (so a loss to salido outweighs a loss to WARd)
    LOMA HAS ONLY 11 PROFESSIONAL BOUTS WITH A LOSS TO (14 losses, Salido)
    Last edited by HURTFEELINGS; 03-20-2018, 06:33 AM.

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    • #32
      Lomachenko is easily the best p4p on that list. He has by far the most skills and is also the smallest.

      Lomachenko is an amazing talent. The other guys haven't shown his level yet.

      One of the GOAT amateurs and now an amazing pro.

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      • #33
        Can anyone explain how 1 guy (loma) loses to Salido(14 loses) the other guy (garcia) beats Salido.....BUT THE GUY WHO LOSS, IS THOUGHT TO BE HIGHER? Where is the LOGIC behind that kinda thinking? finishing 2nd is better than finishing 1st? it must be those alt facts......

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        • #34
          Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS View Post
          Can anyone explain how 1 guy (loma) loses to Salido(14 loses) the other guy (garcia) beats Salido.....BUT THE GUY WHO LOSS, IS THOUGHT TO BE HIGHER? Where is the LOGIC behind that kinda thinking? finishing 2nd is better than finishing 1st? it must be those alt facts......
          Easy. One loss doesn’t mean somebody is ****... in years gone by before everyone was protected most boxers took losses at some stage of their careers and were still defined as the best of their generation.

          Beyond that just because Salido beat Loma back then and Garcia beat Salido doesn’t mean that Garcia would beat Loma... it’s just plain stupid to think like that because there are so many variables.

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          • #35
            Voted for Crawford ahead of Loma. IMO Spence is a distant 3rd right now.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Deus View Post
              What on earth has Spence done to even be mentioned in the same sentence as Loma and Crawford?
              Exactly he's not even fighting in his natural weight just feeding on smaller guys the guy was a Light Middleweight in the amateurs and how long ago was that ?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Deus View Post
                Easy. One loss doesn’t mean somebody is ****... in years gone by before everyone was protected most boxers took losses at some stage of their careers and were still defined as the best of their generation.

                Beyond that just because Salido beat Loma back then and Garcia beat Salido doesn’t mean that Garcia would beat Loma... it’s just plain stupid to think like that because there are so many variables.

                So this doesnt matter, is that what youre saying? I get more credit for losing to Salido, but Garcia gets less credit for BEATING him. So Losing gets more credit than Winning? Loma could do what he required Rigo to do....go up two weight classes and fight Garcia, Garcia said he'd meet Loma at 135....NOT UNDERSTANDING YOUR ARGUMENT. One guy has 11 pro fights with a loss, the other has 30+ fights with no losses, belts in many weight classes, he beat someone Loma couldnt beat You still havent explained your reasoning..

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS View Post
                  Can anyone explain how 1 guy (loma) loses to Salido(14 loses) the other guy (garcia) beats Salido.....BUT THE GUY WHO LOSS, IS THOUGHT TO BE HIGHER? Where is the LOGIC behind that kinda thinking? finishing 2nd is better than finishing 1st? it must be those alt facts......
                  You are putting too much stock into a close, debatable loss in a controversial fight that came in a guys 2nd fight. Salido didn't make weight, piled on a ton more weight after the weigh in which he was way over and fouled all night to end up hanging on to a SD which could and should have gone the other way.

                  If you can't see the improvement since then you are blinded.

                  Garcia's competition is not nearly as good as Lomachenko's. Mikey has fought no guys that were even on the cusp of the pound for pound lists or considered elite talents. Loma has three in Russell, Walters and Rigondeaux. Those are far better than any Mikey win and though Mikey has been hopping weights he's never defined himself as the #1 at any of those weights really. He made one total title defense across his reigns.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Luilun View Post
                    Exactly he's not even fighting in his natural weight just feeding on smaller guys the guy was a Light Middleweight in the amateurs and how long ago was that ?
                    most of the time you fight at a higher weightclass in the amateurs, because they have same-day weighin.
                    Andre Ward won his Gold medal at light-heavyweight and made 168 comfortable in the pro ranks.

                    porter fought at middleweight in his Amateur days and settled at welterweight in the pro ranks.


                    If Spence is able to make 147 than he is a welterweight.

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                    • #40
                      I'd say it's close between Crawford and Lomachenko. Loma is the more dynamic talent with the higher ceiling but perhaps Crawford is the most complete boxer. I think it's close but a clear win over Linares in May and on merit and skill set he would be a clear #1.

                      Spence is very good but those two are great so Spence is a bit of a distance behind.

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