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  • #51
    Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
    The Ring also once had Guerrero, Maidana and Ortiz as p4p rated fighters, somewhere in the top 10...just before each of them faced Mayweather. You figure that one out for yourself.
    Hahaha, that must be a joke.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Damn Wicked View Post
      Hahaha, that must be a joke.
      No but it's totally false, though.

      Guererro was P4P #10 but the other two were never P4P.

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      • #53
        The hype train was real. Broner was on the up and up with viewership and genuinely was a two-weight division champion by the end of 2012. But if you've been watching him before the Maidana fight, you knew this **** was a joke.

        Missed weight on purpose, vacated his title for an easy win on Escobedo. Had a good showing against DeMarco, but then you saw his performances against Gavin Rees and Paulie Malignaggi. It was bad, sure he knocked Rees out but you could see him struggle (lucky he was much bigger than Rees). Maidana gave us much more than what we expected and Broner displayed his chin, not much more to it after that. He's a good showman though.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
          The Ring also once had Guerrero, Maidana and Ortiz as p4p rated fighters, somewhere in the top 10...just before each of them faced Mayweather. You figure that one out for yourself.
          Maidana was never on the p4p list

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          • #55
            Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post
            It reminds me of the Gee. He was top 5 p4p without ever beating a great opponent. Then when he finally stepped up and barely beat a notable name some tried to put him as #1. They even hyped up his p4p status after he beat a welterweight.
            lol..........

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            • #56
              Originally posted by revelated View Post
              Lies. That fight was huge, which is why Bowe got flack for trashing the belt. It was clear fear. If it was only money, Bowe would have taken the payday and a dive.



              Again, lies. Majority of guys that wanted Tyson were because they flat out didn't like him. Everyone else was either a mandatory or a replacement. Douglas got nowhere near a big payday because he wasn't a draw. He took the fight because he had nothing to lose.
              Douglas fought Oliver McCall (14-2) 6 months before Tyson. The money he got for Tyson, he woulda blew him for. people fought tyson for 1 reason, money. its professional boxing. nobody fought tyson because they "didnt like him".

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Redsox View Post
                nobody fought tyson because they "didnt like him".
                I shouldn't have to do this for you.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by revelated View Post
                  I shouldn't have to do this for you.

                  oh. i didnt know you were talking about street fights. green had fought tyson in the ring already doe. for $8,000 or less. for the money though. and that street fight, that was for money too, though it didnt work out so well for green in any way.
                  its all about the money. tyson, hamed, douglas....none of them would give up a candy bar to save your life. but be happy.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                    The Ring also once had Guerrero, Maidana and Ortiz as p4p rated fighters, somewhere in the top 10...just before each of them faced Mayweather. You figure that one out for yourself.
                    Guerrero was once #10 P4P after defeating Katsidis, Aydin and Berto. Journalists and writers found the Aydin and Berto wins impressive because he jumped up from 135 to 147 to defeat them.

                    Maidana and Ortiz never made into the top 10 P4P list. This is you fabricating things to argue about.

                    Maidana and Ortiz rightfully made into the top 10 WW list. Ortiz rose up the ranks after taking Berto's 0 in an upset win, Maidana cracked #9 top 10 WW after upsetting Broner.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Redsox View Post
                      oh. i didnt know you were talking about street fights. green had fought tyson in the ring already doe. for $8,000 or less. for the money though. and that street fight, that was for money too, though it didnt work out so well for green in any way.
                      its all about the money. tyson, hamed, douglas....none of them would give up a candy bar to save your life. but be happy.
                      Green fought Tyson because he couldn't stand him. Period. It was his #1 motivator - as was the case with many of Tyson's non-champion opponents. Well documented multiple times over and even now, when interviewed, he has been on record saying he flat out just didn't like Mike.

                      Regardless. When you lose like Spinks or Hamed, you lose a part of your fire. Same with Choco,same with Pedraza...when you lose that '0' in dominant fashion, you're not the same fighter. We've seen it time and again and we'll keep on seeing it.

                      Done.

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