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  • Originally posted by bigsmoothh View Post
    i been following andy for a while now, and i believe he beat parker too, a lot of people here don't know or have not noticed that ruiz has very heavy hands and is amazing counterpuncher. i knew ruiz coming into the aj fight was a lot closer than most people thought. after the outcome i was not surprised at all. im just glad ruiz is finally getting the recognition he deserves. sure wilder and fury could beat him and that is ok, after all this is boxing. If those fights do get made, may the best man win.
    Ruiz does NOT have heavy hands he is a somewhat sharp puncher but not a big one and deff not heavy hands.Which fight has he shown even SOMEWHAT heavy hands?Lets not forget his 1st 34 fights where he has a KO% OF 65% against top 20 fighters at best outside of Parker who he did not hurt AT ALL.AJ does not a have a good chin, but his biggest problem is his mental makeup and lack of TRUE confidence.

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    • Originally posted by john l View Post
      Ruiz does NOT have heavy hands he is a somewhat sharp puncher but not a big one and deff not heavy hands.Which fight has he shown even SOMEWHAT heavy hands?Lets not forget his 1st 34 fights where he has a KO% OF 65% against top 20 fighters at best outside of Parker who he did not hurt AT ALL.AJ does not a have a good chin, but his biggest problem is his mental makeup and lack of TRUE confidence.
      Haha yeah... definitely not "heavy-handed." The guy was raining combinations on AJ's dome all night, but he kept getting back up. Andy's a counterpuncher who relies on speed, precision, and timing. Heavy-handed fighters can land one big shot and it's over. Julian Jackson. David Tua. Efe Ajagba.

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      • F = ma Force= mass times acceleration. The speed of his punches does make him heavy handed because he's fat.

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        • Originally posted by Deontay Wilder View Post
          Haha yeah... definitely not "heavy-handed." The guy was raining combinations on AJ's dome all night, but he kept getting back up. Andy's a counterpuncher who relies on speed, precision, and timing. Heavy-handed fighters can land one big shot and it's over. Julian Jackson. David Tua. Efe Ajagba.
          Agree 100% I always thought Foreman was he perfect example of "heavy hands"his punches a lot of times did not even look hard they were slow,wide shots thrown from below his waist some times, BUT when they landed it was like the guy got hit by a telephone pole.Even Wilder who does have somewhat heavy hands gets most of his power from speed and torc like Hearns.

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          • Originally posted by BigDramaShow View Post
            F = ma Force= mass times acceleration. The speed of his punches does make him heavy handed because he's fat.
            He is not heavy handed AT ALL.Not even a little.Heavy hands means you DONT NEED SPEED like Foreman.Even Wilder who has once in a generation type power IS NOT heavy handed he gets his power from speed and leverage and a little heavy hands.Lets not forget Ruiz's 1st 34 fights where he had not KOed anyone of note.He has decent power at best and their is at least 5-6 of the top 10 who hit harder and that's not counting the prospects.

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            • Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
              was a huge upset.

              Any true boxing fan knew that Ruiz had more skill than Joshua but that Joshua had the size advantage.

              Stop acting like you’re surprised Ruiz won, lmao. I’m not surprised in the slightest that Ruiz won. And this fight isn’t one of the biggest upsets in boxing history. Foh...
              ruiz was on that a-side meth

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              • Originally posted by john l View Post
                He is not heavy handed AT ALL.Not even a little.Heavy hands means you DONT NEED SPEED like Foreman.Even Wilder who has once in a generation type power IS NOT heavy handed he gets his power from speed and leverage and a little heavy hands.Lets not forget Ruiz's 1st 34 fights where he had not KOed anyone of note.He has decent power at best and their is at least 5-6 of the top 10 who hit harder and that's not counting the prospects.
                science isn't you forte is it?

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                • Originally posted by john l View Post
                  Ruiz does NOT have heavy hands he is a somewhat sharp puncher but not a big one and deff not heavy hands.Which fight has he shown even SOMEWHAT heavy hands?Lets not forget his 1st 34 fights where he has a KO% OF 65% against top 20 fighters at best outside of Parker who he did not hurt AT ALL.AJ does not a have a good chin, but his biggest problem is his mental makeup and lack of TRUE confidence.
                  That 65% knockout power tkod the titlist.
                  Last edited by Raggamuffin; 06-06-2019, 08:31 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Luccio View Post
                    science isn't you forte is it?
                    Boxing CLEARLY is not yours.Ruiz is not heavy handed and you wont get ONE not frickren ONE trainer to say he is.Dude you have ALOT to learn.Your just gonna have to accept your hero did not get KOed by a big puncher, live with it.
                    Last edited by john l; 06-06-2019, 01:11 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                      That 65% knockout power tkod the titlist.
                      Yes he did and that says more about AJ chin then it does Ruiz's power.

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