Why didn't GGG throw more body punches vs Canelo?

[Red_Menace]

You make it seem like canelo outlanded him in power punches by a mile. It was almost dead even. Canelo had 4 more power punches. Not all non power punches are jabs. When you're being outlanded by almost 50 shots that's a whitewash.

I think they literally count anything that's not a jab as a power punch. As far as compubox goes, there are jabs and power punches, and that's it.

[bigdunny1]

You make it seem like canelo outlanded him in power punches by a mile. It was almost dead even. Canelo had 4 more power punches. Not all non power punches are jabs. When you're being outlanded by almost 50 shots that's a whitewash.

GGG is known as the KO monster he shouldn't be outlanded in power punches period. And misleading saying it was only by 4 punches because the difference in connect rate was wide almost double digit percentage points. Meaning GGG threw 70 more power punches and was STILL outlanded. Meaning he was missing a lot and badly. And judging is on a round by round basis well 7 of the 12 rounds he was outlanded in power punches by a fighter who was landing a significantly higher clip and cleaner. Canelo was outlanded by 49 overall punches, but again GGG was outlanded in every other non jab punch stat by canelo and hit at a higher rater. Canelo landed the cleaner and harder shots. GGG was busier but missed a shyt ton and only landed jabs. Became totally 1 dimensional unable to land anything downstairs or land anything with power. That wasn't an accident and damn sure not what GGG planned. Canelo's defense did that to him.

[Mike_R]

I think like folks are saying- he didn't want to force action to the body and risk eating big counters.

Canelo didn't give him a lot of clear openings- but I do think overall the lack of bodywork was a big flaw in GGG's fight plan. I was surprised he wasn't more willing to rip his bigger shots to the shoulders/arms/body.

Those first 3 rounds- it was very clear that GGG was finding his breath and trying to smooth out and get comfortable. He and Canelo both showed each other tremendous respect regarding the other's power.

What a great fight.

What a **** scorecard. lol

Hope this rematch can happen straight away. Elapsed time will only make the match up less compelling IMO.

[baya]

why wasn't ggg punching to the body? because it hurts when canelo hits you in the face is why

[Mr Objecitivity]

What a joke! The so called 'power punches' of Canelo Alvarez weren't 'powerful' enough to deter, dissuade or discourage Golovkin from continuing with his application of pressure and aggression and Golovkin was moving forward many times, a second after taking Canelo's best 'power punches'. So if that was the case, then how can Canelo Alvarez's 'power punches' be called more effective than Golovkin's jabs which were seemingly more powerful and effective. Thus, resulted in Canelo Alvarez's head getting snapped back more frequently and resulted in Canelo being forced backwards for more than 50% of practically every round.

[bigdunny1]

What a joke! The so called 'power punches' of Canelo Alvarez weren't 'powerful' enough to deter, dissuade or discourage Golovkin from continuing with his application of pressure and aggression and Golovkin was moving forward many times, a second after taking Canelo's best 'power punches'. So if that was the case, then how can Canelo Alvarez's 'power punches' be called more effective than Golovkin's jabs which were seemingly more powerful and effective. Thus, resulted in Canelo Alvarez's head getting snapped back more frequently and resulted in Canelo being forced backwards for more than 50% of practically every round.

this is stupid first GGG head snapped back more times then Canelo's and you got gifs for days to show you who landed the cleaner harder shots. Second just because GGG keeps coming forward walking face forward into power shots don't mean they aint effective or scoring. Hell Cotto landed everything but the kitchen sink on Kamagai and that fool never stopped coming forward actually ran forward all 12 rounds to be specific. By your logic Cotto didn't land any power or effective shots.

GGG has a great chin and ate some big shots and didn't come close to hurting Canelo either the few times he did land cleanly.

[GhostofDempsey]

I think he was just afraid to get countered. Delivering a body shot leaves your head and face wide open for a counter. Canelo also has a very stout frame, and I think he can absorb body shots better than the average fighter. Perhaps GGGs team figured it wouldn't be worth the risk to invest in the body when Canelo has a thick frame that can take punishment and a heavy-handed counter punch that could inflict a lot of damage in return.

[bigdunny1]

he was headhunting

he underestimated canelos ability to take a shot

when you have been feasting on bums your entire career that lay down a when you touch them, you forget the basic fundamentals

ggg looked confused in there at times, he was hesitating to let his hands go because he felt some of those counter shots

exactly it's really simple canelo's defense had him missing by a mile and his hard counter punches had him worried about throwing punches that left him open to getting clock more right in the face. Don't know why people are really over thinking this and trying to come up with a conspiracy why he abandoned shots that would of left to him eating counters when he faced a razor sharp counter puncher.

[Mr Objecitivity]

this is stupid first GGG head snapped back more times then Canelo's and you got gifs for days to show you who landed the cleaner harder shots. Second just because GGG keeps coming forward walking face forward into power shots don't mean they aint effective or scoring. Hell Cotto landed everything but the kitchen sink on Kamagai and that fool never stopped coming forward actually ran forward all 12 rounds to be specific. By your logic Cotto didn't land any power or effective shots.

GGG has a great chin and ate some big shots and didn't come close to hurting Canelo either the few times he did land cleanly.

GGG's head didn't snap back more than Canelo's head. Canelo didn't land enough punches for that to happen. Whilst Canelo would land one or two accurate punches that would snap Golovkin's head back, Golovkin would land 10 or more jabs that'd more frequently snap Canelo's head back in addition to forcing Canelo's entire body on the back foot. Thus, showing Golovkin's punches having greater 'effect' or being more 'effective'.

It doesn't matter what punch Canelo Alvarez throws, be it a Mexican punch, a sexy punch, a flashy punch. If Canelo's punches aren't 'effecting' Golovkin much, then they can't be considered 'effective'. An 'effective' punch has to actually 'effect' the opponent. So if Canelo Alvarez lands his most powerful punch accurately on Golovkin's face and Golovkin is barely effected by it and is still able to move forward the very next second, then that punch of Canelo wasn't that 'effective' to begin with. So what does Canelo Alvarez have to do then? Well he has to throw another similar power punch. If that still doesn't effect Golovkin much. Then he has to throw a 3rd punch, fourth punch and so forth until his punches do have an effect on Golovkin. Golovkin's chin can't be used as an excuse for why Canelo couldn't discourage Golovkin more. It's Canelo's job to throw more punches until they effect Golovkin instead of throwing one punch which as very little to no effect and then backing away like a scared little girl.

I didn't see the Cotto vs Kamagai fight so I can't comment on that. However, a fight that I did watch which further reinforces my point is Manny Pacquiao vs Antonio Margarito. Manny Pacquiao couldn't effect Margarito much with his hardest single punches much like Canelo couldn't to Golovkin. However, unlike Canelo Alvarez, Manny Pacquiao, after throwing his single hardest punches, when he realized that they weren't effecting Margarito much, he threw two more punches, three more punches, four more punches until he broke Margarito's nose. Why didn't Canelo do the same? Exactly! Because he isn't as skilled as some of you like to claim. All the excuses about size when Golovkin and Canelo were practically the same. Yet, Pacquiao was outweighed and out-sized by a much bigger margin than Canelo was ever outweighed or out-sized in any of his bouts.

[bigdunny1]

Canelo never snapped GGG's head back? Ok what about this









No go ahead and show me all the examples of GGG snapping Canelo's head back with clean shots. and we can go back and forth with Gifs because there is literally an entire post full of them from canelo.

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