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I hold my Grandfather and all World War 2 veterans in high esteem. But guess what? If you pit them h2h against any of the armed forces of today, Navy or Infantry, they'd be nothing but cannon fodder.
Mayweather is absolutely better than SRR technically if we're talking about looking at the footage available to us. I'm saying this as a person who ranks SRR No1 p4p because I acknowledge he's a trailblazer and his career. To say he moves better than Floyd? Posses a higher ring IQ? Throws a punch better technique wise?.
Dempsey would have 0 chance vs Super HWs Lewis onwards. Zero. He's a Cruiser, if that. He'd be rendered unconscious by these big boys that can actually Box. I have to emphasize the point this generations 'OAFS' can actually Box much better than the lumbering figures of Willard ND Co.
Coach Ray, Floyd would be your model student, would he not?.
P. S I friggin miss Elroy. That was prime History section.
Well Lennox Lewis is a career long Boxer who as a teenager/young Adult picked up a Golden Medal in the Olympic Games and then transitioned into the FULL TIME pro ranks. He then became unified champion beating the **** out of Tyson who was a supposed reincarnation of Dempsey. Don't tell me about a 6 ft 1 bouncer (if true) when you have Lewis and Soviet produced Wlad. Don't let me get into the soviet system.
You know the mini empire that nurtured talented children to become world class athletes (in some cases by hook or by crook).
We also have second generation Boxers now most famous and talented being Floyd. Eubank Jr being next up.
Quit spit shining Ray he doesn't need a little kid speaking on behalf of him.
He's not a HW by today's standard. He'd probably get a fight sanctioned here in England because we've got Bellew vs Haye but he'd 100% get knocked out. & to all you people saying height & weight doesn't mean anything in a limitless division, then you lack common sense.
B level competition? Isaac Chilemba would make anybody look bad from that era solely because of SKILL & TECHNIQUE. Isaac would have been a GOD those days. Have you actually watched the footage of those old fighters?. Usyk made mince meat of Isaac.
300 fight careers? Jack Dempsey had fights on par with Wladimir & B hop, give or take a few. This what you old crowd do, you just make up garbage and repeat mythological stories bandied about by the outdated closed press who made these fighters out to be something they're not.
Firpo and Willard didn't have 80 fights between them. These were the super HWs Dempsey dispatched. You have the audacity to compare these guys to the likes of Wladimir and Lewis, Gold medalist before becoming unified champions.
Don't just throw around that 300 fight bullcrap especially when debating with me mate that's unfounded rubbish. You actually think a 1915-1930 HW has a chance in hell these days?. Boxing hardcore are panning out to be very fickle when you scratch the surface.
Mayweather is absolutely better than SRR technically if we're talking about looking at the footage available to us. I'm saying this as a person who ranks SRR No1 p4p because I acknowledge he's a trailblazer and his career. To say he moves better than Floyd? Posses a higher ring IQ? Throws a punch better technique wise?.
Dempsey would have 0 chance vs Super HWs Lewis onwards. Zero. He's a Cruiser, if that. He'd be rendered unconscious by these big boys that can actually Box. I have to emphasize the point this generations 'OAFS' can actually Box much better than the lumbering figures of Willard ND Co.
Coach Ray, Floyd would be your model student, would he not?.
P. S I friggin miss Elroy. That was prime History section.
Well Lennox Lewis is a career long Boxer who as a teenager/young Adult picked up a Golden Medal in the Olympic Games and then transitioned into the FULL TIME pro ranks. He then became unified champion beating the **** out of Tyson who was a supposed reincarnation of Dempsey. Don't tell me about a 6 ft 1 bouncer (if true) when you have Lewis and Soviet produced Wlad. Don't let me get into the soviet system.
You know the mini empire that nurtured talented children to become world class athletes (in some cases by hook or by crook).
We also have second generation Boxers now most famous and talented being Floyd. Eubank Jr being next up.
Quit spit shining Ray he doesn't need a little kid speaking on behalf of him.
He's not a HW by today's standard. He'd probably get a fight sanctioned here in England because we've got Bellew vs Haye but he'd 100% get knocked out. & to all you people saying height & weight doesn't mean anything in a limitless division, then you lack common sense.
B level competition? Isaac Chilemba would make anybody look bad from that era solely because of SKILL & TECHNIQUE. Isaac would have been a GOD those days. Have you actually watched the footage of those old fighters?. Usyk made mince meat of Isaac.
300 fight careers? Jack Dempsey had fights on par with Wladimir & B hop, give or take a few. This what you old crowd do, you just make up garbage and repeat mythological stories bandied about by the outdated closed press who made these fighters out to be something they're not.
Firpo and Willard didn't have 80 fights between them. These were the super HWs Dempsey dispatched. You have the audacity to compare these guys to the likes of Wladimir and Lewis, Gold medalist before becoming unified champions.
Don't just throw around that 300 fight bullcrap especially when debating with me mate that's unfounded rubbish. You actually think a 1915-1930 HW has a chance in hell these days?. Boxing hardcore are panning out to be very fickle when you scratch the surface.
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