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Article I: Not Guilty 52-48

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ROMNEY TO VOTE GUILTY ON ONE OF TWO ARTICLES


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Romney will vote to convict, denying Trump unanimous Republican support


Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) said Wednesday he will vote to convict President Donald Trump in the impeachment trial, becoming the only Republican to break with the president and his party.

"The grave question the Constitution tasks senators to answer is whether the president committed an act so extreme and egregious that it rises to the level of a 'high crime and misdemeanor,' Romney said in a dramatic floor speech.

"Yes, he did," Romney said.
The move denies Trump the unanimous Republican support he had sought and is sure to invite an avalanche of attacks from the president and his allies.

While Romney said he would support the impeachment article charging Trump with abuse of power, he will vote against the second article charging Trump with obstruction of Congress. The Senate is set to acquit Trump of both charges during votes at 4:00 p.m.

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UPDATE FEB 4th:
Senator Collins Will Vote To Acquit



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Republican Susan Collins, key swing-vote senator, announces she will vote to acquit Trump


Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins, a key swing vote in President Trump's impeachment trial, announced Tuesday she would vote to acquit on both articles of impeachment -- noting that Democrats' "abuse of power" charge "did not even attempt" to allege that Trump had committed a crime, and instead constituted a "difficult-to-define, non-criminal act."

Even as she criticized Trump's behavior as "flawed," Collins slammed House Democrats for delaying transmitting the articles of impeachment to the Senate for more than a month, saying the stalling and posturing undercut their arguments that the president was an imminent threat.

Last week, Collins had broken ranks with her fellow Republicans, along with Utah GOP Sen. Mitt Romney, to vote in favor of additional witnesses in the Senate trial. Trump, who is now set to be overwhelmingly acquitted by the Senate on Wednesday, will deliver the annual State of the Union address before Congress Tuesday night amid record-high approval ratings.

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UPDATE JAN 31st:
Senate votes 51-49 against additional witnesses to be subpoenaed.

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UPDATE JAN 30th:
IMPEACHMENT TRIAL EXPECTED TO END BY WEEKEND



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New witnesses unlikely, Trump impeachment trial could end quickly: GOP sources


Senators return at 1 p.m. Thursday for a second day of questions to House managers and President Donald Trump’s legal team in his impeachment trial as attempts by Democrats to rally votes for new witnesses appear to have stalled.

After more than 90 questions and 8 hours of debate on Wednesday, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has indicated to Republican senators he believes he now has the votes to defeat any Democratic motion that the Senate consider new witnesses when the Senate decides that question on Friday, according to two GOP sources. That would allow him to skip to the final stages of the trial, the sources said.

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UPDATE JAN 21st: BIDEN FOR BOLTON?


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Senate Democrats privately mull Biden-for-Bolton trade in impeachment trial


Several Senate Democrats are privately discussing the possibility of calling Republicans’ bluff on witnesses, weighing an unusual trade in President Trump’s impeachment trial: the testimony of Hunter Biden for the testimony of a key administration official.

Publicly, most Democrats have scoffed at the growing GOP clamor to hear former vice president Joe Biden’s son testify, dismissing him as irrelevant to the charges against Trump and accusing Republicans of trying to distract from the allegations against the president.

But behind closed doors, a small group of Democratic senators and aides have begun to question that logic, sounding out their colleagues on whether they should back a witness deal that could lead to testimony from former national security adviser John Bolton or other administration officials with possible firsthand knowledge of the Ukraine controversy, according to multiple Democratic officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the private discussions.

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UPDATE ON TRUMP DEFENSE TEAM



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Trump impeachment defense team will include Clinton prosecutor Ken Starr and Jeffrey Epstein lawyer Alan Dershowitz


President Donald Trump’s impeachment defense team will include Ken Starr, whose investigation led to the impeachment of President Bill Clinton, and Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, whose clients have included notorious pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and O.J. Simpson.

Also on the team is ex-Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, CNBC has learned. In addition, Robert Ray, who succeeded Starr as independent counsel in the Whitewater investigation of Clinton, is expected to be on the team. White House Counsel Pat Cipollone and Trump’s personal lawyer Jay Sekulow are heading the defense effort.

The Trump team choices came to light four days before his trial is set to begin in earnest in the Senate.

The Republican president was accused in impeachment articles passed by the House of abusing power and obstructing Congress. The charges relate to Trump asking Ukraine’s new president to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden — the frontrunner for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination — while withholding congressionally approved military aid to Ukraine.

The legal lineup will not include Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor and another personal attorney for Trump. Giuliani’s push last year to get Ukraine to investigate Biden and his son Hunter Biden were the subject of extensive testimony and evidence in House impeachment proceedings.

“The president asked me to do this, and the legal team asked me to do this,” Dershowitz said in an interview with CNBC after his role on the defense team became known.

Dershowitz said he will be making oral arguments in the Senate “to address the constitutional arguments against impeachment and removal.”

He also said that although he opposed Clinton’s impeachment and voted for Hillary Clinton against Trump in 2016, he “is participating in this impeachment trial to defend the integrity of the Constitution and to prevent the creation of a dangerous constitutional precedent.”
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UPDATE JAN 15th
PELOSI NAMES 7 MANAGERS FOR THE SENATE TRIAL.











UPDATE JAN 14th
HOUSE TO VOTE TOMORROW ON SENDING ARTICLES



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House prepares to vote Wednesday to transmit Trump impeachment articles to the Senate


The House of Representatives is preparing a likely Wednesday vote to transmit articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump to the Senate, NBC News reported Tuesday, citing several sources.

Wednesday’s House resolution will have three functions, Pelosi reportedly told fellow Democrats at a closed caucus meeting. It will transmit the articles of impeachment to the Senate, name the House members who will serve as managers of the impeachment trial, and fund the trial itself.

Pelosi has yet to announce who she has selected to serve as impeachment managers, the House members who will effectively act as prosecutors in the president’s trial.

But the list is likely to include House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and Rep. Jerrold Nadler, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. Schiff led the formal House impeachment inquiry against Trump last year. Nadler leads the committee which drafted and approved the two articles of impeachment against the president that were passed in December.

Pelosi, D-Calif., faces mounting pressure not only from Republicans, but increasingly from fellow Democrats, to deliver the articles, which would then permit the Senate to begin preparations for a trial.

Pelosi delayed sending the articles as part of a strategy aimed at forcing concessions out of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., chief among them, the ability to call witnesses.

McConnell has so far said the question of witnesses should be shelved until partway into the trial itself, as was the case in the 1998 impeachment of President Bill Clinton.

“We want to see what they’re willing to do, and the manner in which they will do it,” Pelosi said Thursday. “But we will not let them say, ‘This is just like Clinton, fair is fair.’ It is not.”

The House voted on Dec.18 to impeach Trump on two articles stemming from his monthslong campaign to pressure Ukraine into launching investigations into Joe Biden and other domestic political opponents. The pressure tactics allegedly included withholding congressionally approved military aid to Ukraine in its fight against Russia.

Trump was impeached on charges that he abused the power of the presidency and obstructed Congress by prohibiting top administration officials from testifying about the Ukraine scheme.
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Pelosi: House will move to transmit impeachment articles next week


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced Friday that she will take steps next week to send impeachment articles to the Senate, after delaying the process since last month in a bid to extract favorable terms in a trial.

“I have asked Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler to be prepared to bring to the Floor next week a resolution to appoint managers and transmit articles of impeachment to the Senate. I will be consulting with you at our Tuesday House Democratic Caucus meeting on how we proceed further,” Pelosi, D-Calif., wrote in a letter to colleagues.

The decision to release the articles came as fellow Democrats in recent days had started to voice frustration and impatience with the speaker's approach. They stressed the urgency with which impeachment was treated at the end of 2019 and questioned why the House would then delay a trial by using articles as leverage.

Pelosi nevertheless defended her approach in the memo Friday, stressing important new information on the Ukraine controversy at the heart of impeachment that emerged during the interim.

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Then why was the house impeachment hearing rushed?
Because there is a big difference between waiting what would likely be months and months for courts to decide over subpoenas and waiting a few weeks in an attempt to apply pressure for an unbiased trial.

If the courts were to decide over subpoenas in just a few weeks, we'd have Bolton's testimony already.
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Because there is a big difference between waiting what would likely be months and months for courts to decide over subpoenas and waiting a few weeks in an attempt to apply pressure for an unbiased trial.

If the courts were to decide over subpoenas in just a few weeks, we'd have Bolton's testimony already.



If Adam Schiff was willing to risk the impeachment failing in the House... he would have subpoena'd Bolton himself

but... nah
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but even stupid americans know the impeachment is politically motivated

that dog will die a horrible embarrassing death
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I heard they may drop the "charges".
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