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Old 01-18-2020, 11:08 AM #61
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It comes down to the money he made. They all wish they could have made the money floyd did and there will come a time when a boxer will make more than floyd and floyd will hate on him for the same reasons. Itís a cycle.
For example basketball players from the 80ís and 90ís hate on todayís players because they make so much more money than they did.
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Old 01-18-2020, 12:58 PM #62
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It comes down to the money he made. They all wish they could have made the money floyd did and there will come a time when a boxer will make more than floyd and floyd will hate on him for the same reasons. Itís a cycle.
For example basketball players from the 80ís and 90ís hate on todayís players because they make so much more money than they did.


Nah, itís probably because he beats women. Just like he beat his baby mama Josie Harris in front of his own children. His son testified against him in court.
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Old 01-26-2020, 12:35 AM #63
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I agree, the ATG's that were named, fought to see who was better and nowadays it's more about money, but that's any fighter now, it's all about promoters and dollars being made.
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This is so misguided and held by many, the significance of bouts today is lost in the world of mass media, back in the day it was totally different with only main stream coverage of a very select few fighters that were the best of their time, nobody else was known other than the main guys, they were made larger than life , the reality is they also had ordinary fights and quite a few ordinary opponents and some off which they lost too.

Today we still have super fights and some fighters do fight the top guys , the game is different where a great can be lost in space because of mass media.

Fans have a very hype molded sense of greatness making it so that greatness can be in front of their faces and they dont even know it.
Some things in boxing never change. That would be the business side to it. Whether it's 1920 or 2020 journeyman and greats alike are steered by handlers who will take liberties on when and who to fight. Ali's first order of business was never Ken Norton even though he gave him the most difficulty. But the difference and harmful precedent that has taken root is an era now where not only will "the greats" like Ali avoid the Ken Nortons, but they will flat out not face the current best in their division. I don't think he talks much against Floyd anymore (and for good reason) but look no further than to Ray Leonard as to why Floyd became the fighter he became. SRL played games and waited out Hagler for no good reason other than he felt he couldn't win. Boxing has regressed because the sport took a major loss when Floyd and Pacquiao didn't fight when they should have. ATGs blame Floyd because he displays himself as the mr. Independant, free agent and was publicly not in pursuit of making it happen.
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:51 AM #64
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Some things in boxing never change. That would be the business side to it. Whether it's 1920 or 2020 journeyman and greats alike are steered by handlers who will take liberties on when and who to fight. Ali's first order of business was never Ken Norton even though he gave him the most difficulty. But the difference and harmful precedent that has taken root is an era now where not only will "the greats" like Ali avoid the Ken Nortons, but they will flat out not face the current best in their division. I don't think he talks much against Floyd anymore (and for good reason) but look no further than to Ray Leonard as to why Floyd became the fighter he became. SRL played games and waited out Hagler for no good reason other than he felt he couldn't win. Boxing has regressed because the sport took a major loss when Floyd and Pacquiao didn't fight when they should have. ATGs blame Floyd because he displays himself as the mr. Independant, free agent and was publicly not in pursuit of making it happen.

Yep basically this.
Floyd hurt the sport of boxing for his own personal gain.
Thatís why heís not entirely respected by ATG boxers.
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:55 AM #65
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I think the tweet right after the Kobe passing rubbed a lot of ATG's the wrong way.

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Wow is this true??
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