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Old 04-02-2019, 02:54 AM #121
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You’re right. Wilders not very good, but make no mistake about it, the power is real. The power he possesses makes him dangerous to anyone he faces regardless of his lack of boxing ability.

I think you grossly underestimate Ortiz’s ability. As long as he doesn’t lose it due to old age, he’s a handful for anyone he faces. He might not win against the best at heavyweight, but he’s no push over.
Yes, we know Orriz is his best win by far, but there are at least 5 guys on AJs resume far better.
The Fury loss has exposed Wilder- his power is hyped and he looks like a fool againstnqnyone decent
Joshua would box his ears off and then smash him in about round 5
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Old 04-02-2019, 04:00 AM #122
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That's why Barry Hearn wants it in 2021 and why AJ is telling fans you train and fight Wilder
Lol Wilder just said "I'm not lowering myself fo the fans no mo!" and that the time isn't right regarding the AJ fight and you're still posting this nonesense.
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Old 04-02-2019, 04:11 AM #123
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Do you seriously and foolishly believe that Wilder is scared of a slow bum, who doesn't EVER even move his head; the same slow bloke who BARELY made it out of the ring against GRANDPA Klitschko? He fought Ortiz, who would undoubtedly put AJ to sleep. He also just fought the guy who years ago beat pre-GRANDPA Klitschko and ended his reign as king at at HW, in Tyson Fury. The same Fury that would also make AJ look like a clown.

I'm guessing you were in that same crowd who was chanting about how "There's only one Ricky Hatton," too right...before and until Floyd Mayweather did the same thing to him that Wilder will do to AJ...make them British "FAUX" boxers go night night.
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Old 04-02-2019, 04:19 AM #124
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Do you seriously and foolishly believe that Wilder is scared of a slow bum, who doesn't EVER even move his head; the same slow bloke who BARELY made it out of the ring against GRANDPA Klitschko? He fought Ortiz, who would undoubtedly put AJ to sleep. He also just fought the guy who years ago beat pre-GRANDPA Klitschko and ended his reign as king at at HW, in Tyson Fury. The same Fury that would also make AJ look like a clown.

I'm guessing you were in that same crowd who was chanting about how "There's only one Ricky Hatton," too right...before and until Floyd Mayweather did the same thing to him that Wilder will do to AJ...make them British "FAUX" boxers go night night.
Lol hyping up "Grandpa" Ortiz - the that never did anything apart from go to war with the White Rhino and get KO'd by Wilder, against talking down "Grandpa" Wlad - the former 10 year reigning unified HW Champ of the World.

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Old 04-02-2019, 04:19 AM #125
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Your logic is flawed for GGG has a Granite chin and Joshua doesn't.

We are just commenting on arums quote. No question wilder has more one punch power than AJ.

Punch for punch. Chin for chin. Wilder has more of a chance to ko aj with ONE punch than vice versa. How many one punch kos does AJ even have
HW is different then the rest of the divisions , AJ is a SHW which got hit HARD by one of the hardest punchers in the division , he got up , saying he doesn't have a Granite chin is beyond dumb , the point the other poster his trying to convey and you clearly MISSING is the fact that in those sizes that are not bounded by weight you don't have to hit the hardest in the division to be able to KO people , that's why "punchers chance" is way more applicable to the HW division then any other division in the sport.
The question you are asking is IRRELEVANT and also INCORRECT , Wilder Does NOT have a better chance to ko AJ then vise versa , AJ has much better defence and is the better boxer which means he have a way better chance hitting Wilder flush and end him.
Of course if your point is that Wilder can hit harder in the circus and get a better score on the "punching machine" , sure that maybe the case , but it has nothing to do with boxing.
He got outboxed and could not finish a semi retired Fury , that alone should tell you the chances he has in finishing AJ.
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Old 04-02-2019, 04:24 AM #126
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Funny this narrative. Joshua survives Klitschko, hes got a suspect chin. Wilder gets hurt, knocked down by non punchers, needs the doctor looking at him vs old men with high blood pressure, no fragility is associated with him. 🤔
"Needs the doctor looking at him vs old men..."

Old men? I'm just curious...and I'm asking this genuinely: Do people ever use the word "irony" in England? I'm assuming not, because if they did, you would've had the forethought to understand how dumb this comment of yours was going to sound. Talking about old men, yet AJ didn't get a chance to have the doctor look at him because he actually went all the way down on the canvas...right before he BARELY SURVIVED against GRANDPA KLITSCHKO. Mr. slow feet and Mr. no head movement will never face Wilder unless he fires his lifeguard...Eddie Hearn; and honestly Hearn is just trying to protect the man from an early grave.
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Old 04-02-2019, 05:48 AM #127
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Will be exactly same as wilder vs audley Harrison. AJ is identical to audley, just has better, more cautious management
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Old 04-02-2019, 06:27 AM #128
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Yeah.... Hez fought nobody. I wonder how hez the unified champ while the other guy had never had a unification fight.
Wonder who hez been fighting doe.
That's the problem! Casuals, especially over here, where the money is at, don't know Charles Martin, Joseph Parker, and Dominic Breazeale! They know Wilder, Fury, and Joshua! Wilder and Fury have fought! AJ didn't want to come to the U.S. for Wilder! In fact, he said he doesn't need to fight in the U.S.! Now, as Lennox said, "he's changed his tune!" Good luck in NY! Brooklyn Let's Go!
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Old 04-02-2019, 07:10 AM #129
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So Fury won b/c Wlad didn't come out to fight, but he did vs. Joshua, nearly 18 mos. later? Stop that! That's disrespectful to Fury! The younger Wlad didn't have Fury on his back! Joshua didn't beat the Povetkin that Wlad did! Anyway, it's irrelevant be/c like I said, AJ's problem is not who he fought, but who he has NOT fought! That would be Luis Ortiz, Deontay Wilder, and Tyson Fury!
Lol your bias is ridiculous.

Fury beat Wlad before they made it to the ring hence he didn't really come to fight clearly shown in his punch output, props to Fury's mind games which is part of his arsenal.

The Wlad AJ fought beats Ortiz everyday of the week and twice on Sundays as they say.

That Povetkin is 50-50 with Ortiz if any of the hype is real from you guys probably not since he is challenged with mediocre competition so more likely 60/70-40/30.

Fury was a cherrypick gone wrong. Wilder saw he looked rubbish against Pianetta and thought he'd get a bit of that and was lucky he got the draw which you guys seem to be playing as a win.

AJ is a bigger name it's a fact, due to him beating bigger names and clearly shown in the fact that he can earn more fighting Povetkin than Wilder and Fury can earn combined fighting eachother.
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Old 04-02-2019, 07:24 AM #130
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HW is different then the rest of the divisions , AJ is a SHW which got hit HARD by one of the hardest punchers in the division , he got up , saying he doesn't have a Granite chin is beyond dumb , the point the other poster his trying to convey and you clearly MISSING is the fact that in those sizes that are not bounded by weight you don't have to hit the hardest in the division to be able to KO people , that's why "punchers chance" is way more applicable to the HW division then any other division in the sport.
The question you are asking is IRRELEVANT and also INCORRECT , Wilder Does NOT have a better chance to ko AJ then vise versa , AJ has much better defence and is the better boxer which means he have a way better chance hitting Wilder flush and end him.
Of course if your point is that Wilder can hit harder in the circus and get a better score on the "punching machine" , sure that maybe the case , but it has nothing to do with boxing.
He got outboxed and could not finish a semi retired Fury , that alone should tell you the chances he has in finishing AJ.
Stopped reading when you said AJ has a GRANITE chin.
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