Does clean punching, ring generalship, and defense only matter when Mayweather fights

[Real King Kong]

Its not only scoring punches as in number, the judges see the power within the shots landed and then the effect of the punches which in turn moves into the area of ring generalship and defense, effective aggression etc, they are all elements of fighting that judges score and why close fights are really hard to score as there is always a variable that don't add up, Id like to see 5 judges in big fights the other 2 in a closed room watching the broadcast.

nooo...no...not if includes commentary. Actually joe rogan had a decent idea...he was saying there should be like 10 judges watching on tv monitors somewhere else entirely.

[IronDanHamza]

Superior defense?

[Reloaded]

Clean effective punches is the only criteria that matters when it comes to scoring

Ring generalship is some ambiguous **** that means nothing in the end

Defense doesn't count at all...you don't get points by making your opponent fail, no matter what the fans of featherfisted "slick" fighters like Floyd claim

Floyd outlanded his opponents and even his fluffy jabs were counted as power punches by judges, that's how he won for the last decade

Bulldust, every judge sees ring generalship and will score for it, subconsciously he gives points in a close round to a guy he subliminally feels won the round and is controlling the fight, defence, effective aggression etc its all this stuff that will influence the way a fight is scored.

[AboutBillions]

GGG Defends with his FACE. Might have granite chin but when your face starts swelling that gets painful hence the lack of ring generalism

[Tom Cruise]

Superior defense?

Not superior, but underrated imo. He parried and slipped a lot more than many are giving credit for. He just isnt flashy with it.

[Reloaded]

nooo...no...not if includes commentary. Actually joe rogan had a decent idea...he was saying there should be like 10 judges watching on tv monitors somewhere else entirely.

No no no , not with commentary just the vision.

And also a trial by camera where a low blow that wasn't seen or a trip that wasn't ruled etc can be instantly set right and over ruled. I hate seeing a blatant fowl but because the ref didn't see it its not ruled, that's wrong when the rest of the world sees it instantly in slow motion.

[lopetego]

Bulldust, every judge sees ring generalship and will score for it, subconsciously he gives points in a close round to a guy he subliminally feels won the round and is controlling the fight, defence, effective aggression etc its all this stuff that will influence the way a fight is scored.

clean, effective punches landed is what you count in a fight

the rest is nothing but pretentious bull**** and redundant crap

defense doesn't count for **** when it comes to points

I don't care if you make your opponent miss more than a drunk guy trying to hit a pinata, if he still outlanded you and hurt you because you were too busy doing your sweet pea stuff to even throw punches in that round, then sorry, he won that round.

[LADIV]

Look at the punch stats. At the end of Mayweather's fights he lands more punches than his opponent. Yes and that includes jabs. In his fight with Canelo he landed a lot of jabs and I assure you each of them counted as a scoring blow. Canelo has come out on the short end of the punch count in both of his fights with Golovkin. It's a double standard.

you forgot to mention the forearm and elbows floyd throws that count as punches

[Real King Kong]

No no no , not with commentary just the vision.

And also a trial by camera where a low blow that wasn't seen or a trip that wasn't ruled etc can be instantly set right and over ruled. I hate seeing a blatant fowl but because the ref didn't see it its not ruled, that's wrong when the rest of the world sees it instantly in slow motion.

Yea...most other sports use replays and what not. It could be dealt with between rounds.

[ruedboy]

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I saw a fighter this weekend control the ring, show superior defense, and land the cleaner/harder shots (higher percentage of shots) and the Boo birds are still crying...

Anyways thats part of the reason boxing gets a bad look. Its like this weekend was about who was more Mexican vs. boxings "supposed" rules...

I agree with you. If you're a boxing fan, you had to appreciate how Golovkin controlled the distance from the opening bell. It was a great fight and kudos to Alvarez for heart but Golovkin clearly out boxed him.
Bad decisions are the norm in boxing these days, but it's still hard to see a guy lose his titles at the hands of the judges.