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Old 09-29-2019, 05:15 AM #21
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What does the video prove? They were all just rambling on and talking over eachother in front of the camera. Big deal..
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Old 09-29-2019, 07:54 AM #22
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He looked skinnier than usual, looked like he lost weight too fast and lost a bit of muscle.
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Old 09-29-2019, 08:03 AM #23
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Spence was had more stamina down the stretch. Thought that was obvious. So is porters lifestyle worse?
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Bingo!!! Porter was the one gassed not Spence
Porter was a lot busier earlier on.
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Old 09-29-2019, 08:17 AM #24
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What does the video prove? They were all just rambling on and talking over eachother in front of the camera. Big deal..
Haha?! Watch from 5:20. Earl is drunk, slurring, can't get his sentences straight. Adrien Broner and Tank Davis end up rescuing him from embarrassing himself anymore. At one point he's talking about, he started Boxing in 2015, and someone beat him in the Ams in 2017... c'mon bro. Spence is extra sloppy in that video, it is not a good look.

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Old 12-24-2019, 05:27 AM #25
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LOL. Spence doesn't drink at all and lives a relatively quiet, country boy life. Idiots love to gossip and make up lies on here
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:59 AM #26
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Sounds like excuses. Spence just wasn't this unbeatable force many thought. Neither is Crawford IMO. I think all the top 5 welterweights are pretty evenly matched. People keep saying that Spence and Crawford were levels above the rest but we're seeing that's not true.
The question is whether Fighter A is more obviously flawed than Fighter B.

Crawford: gets overconfident or pissed when he gets hit, starts to leak defense and is overly susceptible to trap setting.

Thurman: misjudges range and gets clipped going backwards. If the shot is a ranged body shot he's not expecting it to connect and crumples if it lands square.

Danny: pure counter puncher that eats punches to land his own. Too slow to beat anyone that doesn't stand and trade.

Manny: can't handle bullies, doesn't like sharp jabs to the face that make him reset, gets him frustrated and he loses focus. He's most effective against guys that back away, not guys that march forward, and sucks on the inside.

Porter: if he tries to box at range he eats punches. As the linebacker he has success but easy to time if you're patient and don't lose your cool.

I don't yet see a clear flaw with Spence.

I said before the Porter fight and you can pull that thread, that Spence had never faced a true ring bully. Well, he passed that test with flying colors in my opinion, since even Keef couldn't drop Porter and arguably lost against him.

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Old 12-24-2019, 01:09 PM #27
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The question is whether Fighter A is more obviously flawed than Fighter B.

Crawford: gets overconfident or pissed when he gets hit, starts to leak defense and is overly susceptible to trap setting.

Thurman: misjudges range and gets clipped going backwards. If the shot is a ranged body shot he's not expecting it to connect and curmples if it lands square.

Danny: pure counter puncher that eats punches to land his own. Too slow to beat anyone that doesn't stand and trade.

Manny: can't handle bullies, doesn't like sharp jabs to the face that make him reset, gets him frustrated and he loses focus. He's most effective against guys that back away, not guys that march forward, and sucks on the inside.

Porter: if he tries to box at range he eats punches. As the linebacker he has success but easy to time if you're patient and don't lose your cool.

I don't yet see a clear flaw with Spence.

I said before the Porter fight and you can pull that thread, that Spence had never faced a true ring bully. Well, he passed that test with flying colors in my opinion, since even Keef couldn't drop Porter and arguably lost against him.
Great post, actually learnt something from the thread.
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Hopefully Spence is the beast of a fighter next year that he was this year.
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Old 12-25-2019, 02:18 AM #29
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Great post, actually learnt something from the thread.
Thurman arguably Lost to spence? Revelated doesn't know ****.
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Old 12-26-2019, 02:16 AM #30
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The question is whether Fighter A is more obviously flawed than Fighter B.

Crawford: gets overconfident or pissed when he gets hit, starts to leak defense and is overly susceptible to trap setting.

Thurman: misjudges range and gets clipped going backwards. If the shot is a ranged body shot he's not expecting it to connect and crumples if it lands square.

Danny: pure counter puncher that eats punches to land his own. Too slow to beat anyone that doesn't stand and trade.

Manny: can't handle bullies, doesn't like sharp jabs to the face that make him reset, gets him frustrated and he loses focus. He's most effective against guys that back away, not guys that march forward, and sucks on the inside.

Porter: if he tries to box at range he eats punches. As the linebacker he has success but easy to time if you're patient and don't lose your cool.

I don't yet see a clear flaw with Spence.

I said before the Porter fight and you can pull that thread, that Spence had never faced a true ring bully. Well, he passed that test with flying colors in my opinion, since even Keef couldn't drop Porter and arguably lost against him.
Spence isn't without his flaws (nobody is) as good as he is, you're acting like Spence is the perfect fighter. Funny you can crap on Manny, a sure fire ATG, but can't see any flaws in Spence.

Spence: Little head movement, clunky footwork, can be turned easily, and can't move out of a straight right hand to save his life.
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