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View Poll Results: Who was the best welterweight of all-time?
Sugar Ray Leonard 14 20.90%
Jose Napoles 3 4.48%
Oscar de la Hoya 2 2.99%
Felix Trinidad 4 5.97%
Sugar Ray Robinson 35 52.24%
Pernell Whitaker 2 2.99%
Thomas Hearns 3 4.48%
Emile Griffith 0 0%
Sugar Shane Mosley 1 1.49%
Other 3 4.48%
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:06 PM #21
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Just kidding. He's def in top ten. But not sure if he's top 5.

Shane was a good fighter but he doesn't make the all time top 10 of any division he's fought in let alone the top 5.
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Just noticed, Henry Armstrong is a bit of an omission from the poll.
He would be in mosts top 5 I would hope?
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Robinson for me on the question BTW
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Ike Quartey is also a top 10 Imo. But Oscar has claim to being nr.1 because he beat all the best wws of his time. One of those wins he wasn't credited for, but we all know the truth. Lets see at the names he beat:

Pernell Whitaker-might have not been at his very prime, but was still only 33 when Oscar beat him. And despite all the claims of "controversial decision", there really is nothing controversial about it and the judges all scored the fight clearly in Oscar's favor.
Ike Quartey-some are still *****ing about how Quartey won this fight, but he got knocked down twice and was hit with god knows how many clean punches during the last round assault by Oscar.
Felix Trinidad-he outboxed the guy who was then considered unbeatable and still is considered one of the greatest Puertorican fighters ever, for 9 rounds without problems. That shoulda been all the world needed to know how good he really is.
Julio Cesar Chavez-beat the so-called greatest Mexican fighter twice, both times by tko. First time it was at 140.
Hector Camacho-Another HOF material, who was 63-3-1 when he faced Oscar and constantly on p4p top 10 lists. Oscar beat him by wide UD and scored a knockdown as well.
Oba Carr-He gave Quartey his maybe toughest fight as reigning champ and also knocked down Trinidad and gave him a good fight before getting stopped. Also beat Frankie Randall and Yori Boy Campas. Oscar stopped him in the 11th round.
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Just noticed, Henry Armstrong is a bit of an omission from the poll.
He would be in mosts top 5 I would hope?
Although Henry Armstrong was a welterweight champion, he defended his title at around 135 lbs most of the time which is the lightweight limit. I think he would be better known as a lightweight or featherweight rather than a welterweight. But you could easily say he was a great welterweight, if you wanted.

And yes. I have him ranked as either the 2nd or 3rd greatest fighter of all-time. He was just that good.
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Ike Quartey is also a top 10 Imo. But Oscar has claim to being nr.1 because he beat all the best wws of his time. One of those wins he wasn't credited for, but we all know the truth. Lets see at the names he beat:

Pernell Whitaker-might have not been at his very prime, but was still only 33 when Oscar beat him. And despite all the claims of "controversial decision", there really is nothing controversial about it and the judges all scored the fight clearly in Oscar's favor.
Ike Quartey-some are still *****ing about how Quartey won this fight, but he got knocked down twice and was hit with god knows how many clean punches during the last round assault by Oscar.
Felix Trinidad-he outboxed the guy who was then considered unbeatable and still is considered one of the greatest Puertorican fighters ever, for 9 rounds without problems. That shoulda been all the world needed to know how good he really is.
Julio Cesar Chavez-beat the so-called greatest Mexican fighter twice, both times by tko. First time it was at 140.
Hector Camacho-Another HOF material, who was 63-3-1 when he faced Oscar and constantly on p4p top 10 lists. Oscar beat him by wide UD and scored a knockdown as well.
Oba Carr-He gave Quartey his maybe toughest fight as reigning champ and also knocked down Trinidad and gave him a good fight before getting stopped. Also beat Frankie Randall and Yori Boy Campas. Oscar stopped him in the 11th round.

Ignore the troll,He doesn't know any better as he doesn't watch boxing.


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Pernell Whitaker-might have not been at his very prime, but was still only 33 when Oscar beat him. And despite all the claims of "controversial decision", there really is nothing controversial about it and the judges all scored the fight clearly in Oscar's favor.
Forget about numbers when you're talking about someone's prime. Whitaker was way past it. I'm not sure about this but he might have been doing drugs. Because in his next fight he was caught with cocaine in his system.

During the match Whitaker made Oscar look like a fool at times. A lot even felt that Whitaker won the fight.

Prime against prime I would choose Whitaker.
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Ike Quartey is also a top 10 Imo. But Oscar has claim to being nr.1 because he beat all the best wws of his time. One of those wins he wasn't credited for, but we all know the truth. Lets see at the names he beat:

Pernell Whitaker-might have not been at his very prime, but was still only 33 when Oscar beat him. And despite all the claims of "controversial decision", there really is nothing controversial about it and the judges all scored the fight clearly in Oscar's favor.
Ike Quartey-some are still *****ing about how Quartey won this fight, but he got knocked down twice and was hit with god knows how many clean punches during the last round assault by Oscar.
Felix Trinidad-he outboxed the guy who was then considered unbeatable and still is considered one of the greatest Puertorican fighters ever, for 9 rounds without problems. That shoulda been all the world needed to know how good he really is.
Julio Cesar Chavez-beat the so-called greatest Mexican fighter twice, both times by tko. First time it was at 140.
Hector Camacho-Another HOF material, who was 63-3-1 when he faced Oscar and constantly on p4p top 10 lists. Oscar beat him by wide UD and scored a knockdown as well.
Oba Carr-He gave Quartey his maybe toughest fight as reigning champ and also knocked down Trinidad and gave him a good fight before getting stopped. Also beat Frankie Randall and Yori Boy Campas. Oscar stopped him in the 11th round.
Same thing could be said about trinidad
Oscar De La Hoya he was underfeated
Pernall Whitaker was 40-2
Oba Carr was 32-0 when trinidad beat him
Yori Boy Campas was 56-0 when trinidad defeated him
And last but not least Hector Camacho was 4322
All those opponent except Pernall Whitaker were beaten Trinidad beat them before Oscar

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Ike Quartey is also a top 10 Imo. But Oscar has claim to being nr.1 because he beat all the best wws of his time. One of those wins he wasn't credited for, but we all know the truth. Lets see at the names he beat:

If you don't know **** about past fighters and their competition how can you come up with having Oscar as the best?

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Pernell Whitaker-might have not been at his very prime, but was still only 33 when Oscar beat him. And despite all the claims of "controversial decision", there really is nothing controversial about it and the judges all scored the fight clearly in Oscar's favor.
Whitaker wasn't at his best anymore and it was a razor close fight, but Oscar edged it and gets credit here.

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Ike Quartey-some are still *****ing about how Quartey won this fight, but he got knocked down twice and was hit with god knows how many clean punches during the last round assault by Oscar.
Good win for Oscar in a close fight. Many fail to acknowledge that Oscar has Ike sitting on the shelf for almost a year and a half not allowing him to fight if he wanted to see this pay day. This fight could have gone the other way had Quartey been an active fighter.

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Felix Trinidad-he outboxed the guy who was then considered unbeatable and still is considered one of the greatest Puertorican fighters ever, for 9 rounds without problems. That shoulda been all the world needed to know how good he really is.
No argument here. I though Oscar took Tito to school.
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Julio Cesar Chavez-beat the so-called greatest Mexican fighter twice, both times by tko. First time it was at 140.
Neither of these fights are impressive historically. JCC was the smaller man and well past his best.

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Hector Camacho-Another HOF material, who was 63-3-1 when he faced Oscar and constantly on p4p top 10 lists. Oscar beat him by wide UD and scored a knockdown as well.
Bull****. Who exactly was Camacho beating before the Oscar fight to get into the top 10 P4P? Hector, while still talented and a name was pretty much a journeyman at this point. He hadn't beat a top contender in 6 years and wouldn't do so for the rest of his career.
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Oba Carr-He gave Quartey his maybe toughest fight as reigning champ and also knocked down Trinidad and gave him a good fight before getting stopped. Also beat Frankie Randall and Yori Boy Campas. Oscar stopped him in the 11th round.
Oba could never get over the hill and win a title, but this was a good win over a solid contender.

Here is a list of top welters in no particular order. All rank higher than Oscar or Tito.

Robinson
Leonard
Hearns
Gavilan
Armstrong
Napoles
Basilio
Griffith
Ted "kid" Lewis

Oscar or Tito might crack the top ten, but Im betting more fighters could be argued as having better careers at this weight.
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