Angel Garcia on Thurman-Porter: Why fight each other when they could fight a Salka?

[New England]

what isn't fair is to say that danny has always been protected, and that he never took risks. he took a lot of risks. once they paid off he stopped needing to take them. you want to blame somebody? blame showtime for letting him fight rod salka for the lineal title at 140 on a premium TV network.

i didn't htink he won the harrera fight, and peterson was close, but he took the fights

danny was a dog against khan and matthysse.


he took his risks, and now they're going to need to incentivize him [with ppv money, by the look and soujnd of it,] to take another big fight.


if you want to send a message, call up showtime customer service or write them a letter about why you're cancelling your sub.

200K people post here. if half of those people called or wrote showtime and cancelled subs you'd see MASSIVE changes.

[BigAlexSand]

It's like being a bully in the school yard. Picking on the smallest most defenseless kid in the school. But it's okay, because he gets to look tough and gain a following. It's pathetic and how people are defending this fool baffels me!

[BigAlexSand]

what isn't fair is to say that danny has always been protected, and that he never took risks. he took a lot of risks. once they paid off he stopped needing to take them. you want to blame somebody? blame showtime for letting him fight rod salka for the lineal title at 140 on a premium TV network.

i didn't htink he won the harrera fight, and peterson was close, but he took the fights

danny was a dog against khan and matthysse.


he took his risks, and now they're going to need to incentivize him [with ppv money, by the look and soujnd of it,] to take another big fight.


if you want to send a message, call up showtime customer service or write them a letter about why you're cancelling your sub.

200K people post here. if half of those people called or wrote showtime and cancelled subs you'd see MASSIVE changes.

The biggest risk Garcia ever took was fighting Khan... Period.
Peterson wasn't supposed to be competitive, neither was Herrera, or Paulie. All three were easy fights turned difficult outside of Paulie.

[New England]

So your saying it's okay for "elite/championship" style fighters to fight Salka's of the world. Personally I find it disgusting! This is boxing, a sport of warriors/gladiators and if they don't understand that I don't believe they should be on the big stage or should be fighting what so ever.

from my perspective as a fan of a violent sport and action fights, i'd like to see the best fighters built in a manner that gets them to their fighting peaks. then they fight to see who is best.

that is not a sustainable model for boxing, and that's not how you move a fighter. there wouldn;'t be any boxing if that's how these guys were matched. they'd burn out in a few years, the way you see smaller weight fighters who aren't able to be picky burn out. [they also burn out fast because a small body peaks early, but i'm digressing.]



i'm not saying that i condone it as a fan of the sport, but that i'd be doing the same thing if it was my son getting his brain rattled around and making several million dollars over the course of his career.


i understand that this is a business, and that one's perspective changes drastically when you seek to make millions of dollars, or get your f#cking brains turned into jello.

[JACK1190]

One word. Disgraceful!

[-PBP-]

The reason nobody knows them or is a fan is because they need to be matched with their peers. The stars will rise up. Matching them safely is not going to make stars out of them. They have to be bold. Look at Porter, he is certainly trying. He wants the big fights, he is daring. The more he gets, the bigger he will get.

I respect Porter more than anyone else in the PBC by far, at least he is hungry.

Yeah but even taking risks hasn't paid off for Porter or Garcia. Garcia vs. Guerrero would do the same viewership and gate as Garcia vs. Thurman because nobody knows who Thurman or Garcia is. Maybe it generates a little more interest but not enough to make the risks worth it.

Andre Ward won the Super 6 and can't fill up a small casino outside of Oakland. Boxing just isn't popular in the United States. Your typical ticket purchasing fight fan looks at a newspaper ad and says "Hey guys, want to go see a boxing match? I've never been to one before. Maybe it will be like Rocky." It doesn't matter if it is Garcia vs. Salka or Garcia vs. Porter.

[Motofan]

Free doe!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[New England]

The biggest risk Garcia ever took was fighting Khan... Period.
Peterson wasn't supposed to be competitive, neither was Herrera, or Paulie. All three were easy fights turned difficult outside of Paulie.

matthysse proved to be a better 140 lber than khan. he was the top contender to danny's lineage.


peterson was at or around the top of the division. he'd done well in every fight but bradley and matthysse. he did very well against garcia. he is not a bad fighter. bradley and matthysse were very good 140 lbers.

and herrera was ranked highly himself. it seems like he's always in close fights regardless ofhis comp, but that's just because he lacks power compeltely and pucnehs with his arms. he's not a bad fighter. wins over provodnikov. close fight with alvarado. arguably beat garcia. arguably beat benavidez.



it's revisionist history to call danny protected. he's protected now. he was moved into tough fights at one point in his career, and i listed them. makes me think some of you guys haven't been around boxing for long enoguh!

[New England]

So what about Salka? Those mismatches are risking people's health, not 50/50 fights.

made a career high payday and challenged for a world title.

don't you go blaming robf or taking a career high payday. you guys really don't know what you're talking about if you're going to start with that


blame the athletic commission for sanctioning it, the network for buying it, haymon for the matching.


you'd be f#cking ******ed to pass up that fight if you handled garcia. ******ed. you don't take punches to the face and risk your life. you don't make millions, either. he does. you can die in there. you have to recognize that your perspective as a fan isn't the perspective of a fighter or his team. this ihow they all think. why else would you sign with al hamon ?

angel is just dumb and loud mouthed enough to not keep quiet about wanting to take eaiser fights and make more money in the long term. i'd do the same thing, but i'd lie about it!

[Dr Rumack]

it's not good for the sport, but as a manager, trainer, etc, you are not looking out for the sport. that's his son. he wants danny to take as little damage as possible and take home as much money as he can. and he should!

Everyone understands that Angel Garcia will probably want what's best for his son. That's not in question. Every stakeholder in the sport wants to maximise what they take out of it. Pointing out that Danny Garcia wants to make money is fairly redundant.

The relevant question is what's best for the sport. People criticising Garcia understand how things are, but the question of how things should be is equally important. This video reflects a growing shift towards the assumption that it is wrong to even expect fighters to face tough competition. You see that same attitude expressed on here regularly.

It's a question of whether ducking is a regrettable part of the sport, or a part of the sport that is not regrettable at all. For it seems many fans think boxing is now essentially a gameshow, where you are watching to see how much money the contestants win.