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Old 12-08-2019, 09:59 PM #51
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The resume helps me. For example, Wilder did NOT get knocked out by Ruiz.

THAT is on Joshua's resume.

So yeah.
That's not basing it on someone's resume. That's basing it on one loss.

A resume is much bigger than one fight. It's a body of work.

If the 0 is that significant to you, just acknowledge that's what it is.
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:05 PM #52
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That's not basing it on someone's resume. That's basing it on one loss.

A resume is much bigger than one fight. It's a body of work.

If the 0 is that significant to you, just acknowledge that's what it is.
I'm going with Joshua's FULL resume, including his loss. You know, where a fat guy whooped his butt around the ring.

I know. It sucks when you only want to look at the nice things your guy did, and ignore the crappy stuff, and somebody else comes along and uses common sense.
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:07 PM #53
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AJ has to be 3rd.

I got

1. wilder
2. Fury
3. AJ


You could swap wilder and fury but they have to be 1 and 2.

Fury looked like chit last fight. Wilder is consistent, you always get the same wilder every fight.
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:08 PM #54
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I'm going with Joshua's FULL resume, including his loss. You know, where a fat guy whooped his butt around the ring.

I know. It sucks when you only want to look at the nice things your guy did, and ignore the crappy stuff, and somebody else comes along and uses common sense.
Of course you consider the loss. You also consider the wins, and the quality of the opponents.

Lewis lost to McCall. Does that leave him behind Wilder?
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:06 PM #55
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- -AJ won!

U 3 yards short of a full load?
Doesn't mean the previous loss is meaningless.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:14 PM #56
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Lol @ having Wilder at #1 or even #2...

Beating Ortiz's decomposing carcass in 40+ fights doesn't cut it im afraid. The only fight Wilder stepped up he was schooled, I would just about throw him at #3 only cos he has a belt, not cos I think hes a top 3 HW
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:16 PM #57
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Fury
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Wilder
Parker
Ruiz
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:20 PM #58
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The amazing part of this debate is, Wilder and Fury both refuse to fight anyone in the top 25 other than each other, and an old man Ortiz. AJ has beaten or offered fights to most of the top 15. And he has 3 of the 4 major belts. That alone should place him at #1 but you guys are putting your favorite fighters on top, not the best one. What if AJ fought Wallin and the rest of the guys Fury fought last year? What if he fought Washington, Szpilka, Arreola and the rest of the bums Wilder fought the last few years? Would you claim him to be #1? What if he ran around saying he was the Lineal champion when he wasn't, just like Fury.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:22 PM #59
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I'm going with Joshua's FULL resume, including his loss. You know, where a fat guy whooped his butt around the ring.

I know. It sucks when you only want to look at the nice things your guy did, and ignore the crappy stuff, and somebody else comes along and uses common sense.
If that's the case, then you have to look at Fury and his string of bums that he just fought (and almost lost to) and Wilder's entire career barring Fury and Ortiz. They both should get points taken off for fighting so many bums.
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Fury
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Parker
Ruiz
Good list. I agree actually.
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