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Old 12-08-2019, 04:21 PM #21
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ę*Resume*Ľ should also include losses.

For me the top heavies now:

1. Wilder
2. Fury
3. Joshua

I donít believe Joshua would defeat either Wilder or Fury hence the rankings.
How can you rank Wilder over Fury when weíve seen them two fight?

Fury he two wins over Chisora, a win over world champion Klitschko, a fight against Wilder where most people thought the draw was extremely lucky for Wilder

Wilder has two wins against Ortiz, and Stiverne?

Joshua has beaten an older Wlad, Whyte, Povetkin, Ruiz, Parker - the last eras dominant champion and the rest are currently all top 10

I struggle to place Wilder above the other two. How can you justify that, considering divisional rankings are based on who you have beaten?
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Old 12-08-2019, 04:35 PM #22
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How can anyone have Wilder over Fury when everyone saw Fury beat him

Are we just in the age of ignoring robberies now?

Also Fury has better wins than AJ. He beat a younger and more dominant Wlad.

AJís best win is a Fury leftover that hadnít fought in nearly 2 years and was in his 40s..
To be 'fair'...Dan had Wilder winning that fight.

But his score there and his rankings now indicate that he still holds Fury's comments about Jews against him...he is jaded.

I had Wilder-Fury a draw...but not sure how AJ can be above Fury right now.
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Old 12-08-2019, 04:41 PM #23
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Fury and Joshua are the best. Fight on Wembley would be huge.

Wilder is N. 3.
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:06 PM #24
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there are literally only 4 legit titles..he doesnt have the WBC..
3 out of 4 then. Still.
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:17 PM #25
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Fury and Wilder will determine a genuine number 1 in their rematch, Joshua at this point i have third.
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:27 PM #26
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Purely on who I think is better...

1 - Fury
2 - Wilder
3 - Ruiz
4 - AJ
5 - Ortiz
Didn't Joshua beat Ruiz last night?!?!
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:30 PM #27
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ę*Resume*Ľ should also include losses.

For me the top heavies now:

1. Wilder
2. Fury
3. Joshua

I donít believe Joshua would defeat either Wilder or Fury, hence the rankings.
And it should also include accomplishment...Joshua hold 3/4 of the heavyweight division, Wilder and Fury do not.
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I’m not sure how anyone can reach that conclusion.

I think Fury is no.1, Wilder is no. 2, Ortiz is no. 3 and Joshua is no. 4.
That’s just because I’m not even sure Ruiz is a top 10 heavyweight.

I have no clue how you put Joshua above Fury.
yes everyone should have ortiz over joshua because he clearly has the better resume and even though ortiz just got ko'd and joshua just beat a fighter better than anyone oritz has ever beaten you have to factor in the fantasy factor that ortiz would be undefeated
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Their records in title fights:
Wilder (10-0-1) AJ (8-1) Fury (1-0-1)
yeah and artur grigorian was like 18-0 in title fights until he lost. who? exactly.
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:09 PM #30
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Champion: Fury
1. Wilder
2. AJ
3. Ruiz Jr
4. Whyte
5. Ortiz
6. Hunter
7. Povetkin
8. Pulev
9. Parker
10. Kownacki
*Usyk can go in anywhere between 6-10. Be beat Hunter at CW but hasn't got the resume at HW yet.

AJ has 4 wins over current TBRB top-10 heavyweights. Add that to Wlad, Martin & Takam and AJ has the deepest resume in the division. Fury is still Lineal imo and he beat Wilder so he's legit King unless defeated.
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