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Old 12-03-2019, 03:57 PM #11
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He was always huge puncher between 112-118. Not so much at 126. And Inoue beat him convincingly in the end. That's what happens when your aim is to take your opponent out, you eat a few punches. But he took him them well and fired back his own then stopped him. Not a shaky decision or controversial win by any means.
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Again, because Donaire never belonged at 126 pounds. He could hang in there at 122, but even then he was always best at 118.
sorry im not having it that dropping a few pounds at age of 36/37 allowed him to turn back time. if he was known for being so much better at that weight why did no one give him a chance of winning the tournament? people were shaking their heads when he was entered in the first place lol, but now he gave the forums favourite fighter trouble its suddenly because donaire got his mojo back, not because inoue (whos not beaten anyone) has been overrated. donaire was so highly rated that noone gave him a chance of getting past the halfway point of the fight lol
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Old 12-03-2019, 03:59 PM #12
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The weight classes and recent form of Donaire heading into those fights makes Inoue's fight vs Donaire seem tougher than Frampton's...whether or not Donaire was actually a tougher fight at that weight/time is up for debate
i dont understand what great form he was in though, he got to the final after a technical decision and beating a no hoper in the semi who was a replacement in the tournament.
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Old 12-03-2019, 04:04 PM #13
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i dont understand what great form he was in though, he got to the final after a technical decision and beating a no hoper in the semi who was a replacement in the tournament.
The Burnett fight was a TKO, not a technical decision. Burnett threw a punch at Donaire, missed, screwed up his back, couldn't continue. That's a TKO.
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Old 12-03-2019, 04:11 PM #14
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Donaire is shot in both.

Before Frampton, Donaire lost to Magdaleno at 122.

Then Donaire blown himself up to 126 against Frampton.

Then Donaire drained himself to 118 against Inoue.

He's been shot for years now.
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Old 12-03-2019, 04:14 PM #15
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I cant remember frampton getting much credit for beating him much easier than inoue did, i think the narrative for that one was of two fighters well past their best with frampton being less shot than donaire...

So why was one win met with a shrug of the shoulders but when inoue scrapes past him its proof of being a p4p top 5 level fighter? It cant be that donaire was much better at the weight either cause magdaleno beat him at that weight comfortably years ago...

Ive got limited knowledge on sports science but can your body just really turn back the clock at 36 (he was a few days off 37 actually) after years and years of poor performances? Or maybe 'monster' just isnt as good as hes been made out to be?
Inoue won a toughre than expected fight in which he dealt with adversity. That is how you prove you are a top p4p boxer IMO.

Frampton/Donaire was a fight between 2 past it guys. You can be past it like DOnaire was and still have a great performance.
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Inoue won a toughre than expected fight in which he dealt with adversity. That is how you prove you are a top p4p boxer IMO.

Frampton/Donaire was a fight between 2 past it guys. You can be past it like DOnaire was and still have a great performance.
prove you are a top p4p level fighter by struggling against a near 37 year old whos looked like **** in recent years and been beaten 3 or 4 times in easier fashion when he was younger?
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prove you are a top p4p level fighter by struggling against a near 37 year old whos looked like **** in recent years and been beaten 3 or 4 times in easier fashion when he was younger?
dude you are over exaggerating the negative. He didn't struggle. The fight was tough and he won. Donaire fought like this was his last chance to win a title. He showed extra motivation he hadn't in previous fights. A top fighter may not have been able to overcome the adversity.
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sorry im not having it that dropping a few pounds at age of 36/37 allowed him to turn back time. if he was known for being so much better at that weight why did no one give him a chance of winning the tournament? people were shaking their heads when he was entered in the first place lol, but now he gave the forums favourite fighter trouble its suddenly because donaire got his mojo back, not because inoue (whos not beaten anyone) has been overrated. donaire was so highly rated that noone gave him a chance of getting past the halfway point of the fight lol
Because power is the last thing do go. Your reflexes might be shot, your speed long gone but a big puncher will always have a punchers chance especially in a weight division they're most comfortable in. Pac if he moved to 135-140 today would be KO'ing opponents left right and centre because that's where his power is most effective fighting guys the same size as he is, likewise with Donaire between 112-118.

In that fight he won 4 rounds tops before Inoue moved into another gear in the championship rounds.

My guy just because you don't rate the lower weight classes doesn't make him overrated. He's consensus top 3 P4P. Let it go
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Donaire was past his best in both fight but he knew this was his last chance, motivation and hunger was there and it showed in the fight.... just my 2 cents.
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Donaire was up in weight with a fighter that moves well. History tells you he does not do well with fighters that move well.

Inoue is a smaller fighter that does not move a lot. It was a great fight and a great effort from both fighters. Inoue clearly won but he got tested in that fight. Every great fighter has one more great performance in them and this was it for Nonito.

I just don't believe how much flak Donaire gets.
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