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Old 06-03-2019, 10:15 PM #31
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Hearn is probably being truthful here. AJ wouldn't be sparring hard right before a title defense.
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:18 PM #32
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Fury can't beat Josh. I'll take that to my grave. Even Fury knows that and if you know anything in the British boxing circle, most people know that apart from the white boxers who're in denial.

Josh beat Fury up pretty bad in sparring when he was still an amateur and he dropped him more than twice.
Take it wherever you want. Just be thankful that you guys have one legitimate HW left for the moment.
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:29 PM #33
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Take it wherever you want. Just be thankful that you guys have one legitimate HW left for the moment.
I've never been a fan of Fury and will never be a fan. He's an opportunist who's not as skilled as advertised and a despicable human being. I don't like Dillian Whyte as well.

I'd rather wait for Dubois and Gorman and see how they progress than support Fury.
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:45 PM #34
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Herb Hearn is lying, I have learned to think the exact opposite of whatever he says. ..and Ajoke is still lying.
You know he's lying... How about put a camera in Aj father face let's see what he got to say... He wanted to **** Eddie up in the ring afterwards so yea something NOT right
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:51 PM #35
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Seriously, why do you just make this stuff up? To put it nicely, you're building a reputation for playing loose with the fake facts. Everyone knows it. If you want to sling hate so be it but you shouldn't make things up that are so easily debunked, it's a credibility killer. To be honest, I don't expect you to change because I don't think you can.

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Shut yo soft bytch azzz up. Don't quote me then, and take the sand out your [email protected] you on your period whining because someone says a promoter would try to hide from and not just come out and confirm damaging info about his own fighter. Like that is somehow a shocking point to grasp that promoters lie and deflect to protect their own fighters.

Hearn is really going to come out and say yup Joshua is a fragile bytch and was getting mopped and his pops wanted to cancel it but I forced him anyway for money and maybe allowed him to ruin his career. SMH We won't get to the bottom of this by Hearn because even if it were true he would lie if nothing else to protect Joshua. it will have to be a fighter in camp or someone else who saw it to confirm or deny this.

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Old 06-03-2019, 11:50 PM #36
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AJ should take the blame for his lose. I did warn him before his fight. Andy Ruiz Jr came prepared and he knocked him down 4 times, it's no fluke. AJ needs to show and act like a champ.

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Old 06-04-2019, 12:00 AM #37
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How can it be possible that a china chin like Joshua's was not tested in sparring? Of course he was stunned in sparring! Doesn't take a genius to figure that out!
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Old 06-04-2019, 12:29 AM #38
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Jesus. I'm not a fan of AJ but I can only imagine how some of you would have been talking after Lennox Lewis got KO'd by McCall. I'm sure there would have been alot of "fraud" and "bum" comments. Then the dude goes on to have a HoF career. I remember watching Corrie Sanders blitz Klitschko with blazing handspeed and combination punching too. Joe Rogan said it best when he commented that strange things happen when big men hit each other in the head.

Has AJ been buzzed by fighters before? Yep. Did he drop Ruiz and recklessly go in for the kill? Yep. Did Ruiz get up with clear eyes and recover and proceed to throw fast hands in combos? Yep.

Ruiz isn't a bum, he's a skilled fighter and he came to win. Dude has one loss and that was a disputes majority draw in the other guy's backyard.

AJ may or may not recover from this loss but I don't think he got exposed, he got reckless and he got caught. Everything else we knew before. He was dropped by Klitschko, hurt by Whyte and by Povetkin.

Wilder has been outboxed on multiple occasions only to salvage wins (and a draw) with his power, Fury was dropped by Steve Cunningham and nearly decapitated by Wilder. None of these guys are a complete package and there haven't been many in the history of boxing.

Any of them could catch an "L" on any given night, it doesn't make them frauds. It just so happened that AJ caught his this past Saturday night.
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Old 06-04-2019, 12:31 AM #39
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It was an equilibrium shot he never recovered from. It wasn’t the chin.
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Old 06-04-2019, 12:51 AM #40
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What are you kid, 16? Go research WW2, not Call of Duty video game. The SAS and the RAF has TRUE GRIT!
Agreed! Sorry I'm a bit of a troll but the Brits did show tremendous grit in WWII. The Russians did as well but most Americans won't admit it or have been told otherwise. In all seriousness, Joshua needs to develop some grit. I sense that he's a guy that lacks confidence deep down and that he's been overly pampered. He's a humble guy but I think he should start to question the team that has him carrying around too much muscle.

There are some interesting theories out there. Some are speculating a lack of PEDs that he's normally afforded in the UK, a fix, and most likely he was KO'D in sparring by a bum thus shattering his confidence. I rooted for Joshua and was a bit devastated he lost but he couldn't have lost to a better guy. I hope Joshua rebounds and doesn't become the heavyweight version of Felix Verdejo
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