Wilder's progression as a pro has been right on track.

[SN!PER]

In his 16th amateur win, he won the Golden Gloves.

In his 21st amateur win, he passed the Olympic trials.

In his 30th amateur win, he won an Olympic bronze medal.

[Cutthroat]

Joshua was a amateur for 5 years, only 2 more than wilder.

Being a pro and fighting nobodies and dishwashers for your first 35 fights doesnt mean anything, joshua was fighting elite amateurs in the olympics whereas wilder wss fighting people who literally were obese.

AJ started boxing in '07 and didn't turn pro until '13.

Wilder didn't step foot in a gym until Oct. 2005 and by 2008 was already a pro.

And that's with AJ having all the time in the world to dedicate to the sport, a cousin in boxing, and the UK boxing system treating him like a king.

Wilder was working 2 jobs, and caring for his daughter, no **** he was fighting dishwashers, he was one himself!

AJ was earning millions by his 2nd year while Wilder was fighting for pennies

This is your classic hard worker vs everything handed to you type comparison and you're talking down on the guy that worked for it all.

[joseph5620]

Noone said he hasnt fought any elite amateurs. You should try not being intellectually dishonest. That was a reply to joshua fighting elite amateurs whilst wilder was fighting fatsos and construction workers. Btw he lost to the elite amateurs thats the differnce

You clearly said it.

[sunny31]

AJ started boxing in '07 and didn't turn pro until '13.

Wilder didn't step foot in a gym until Oct. 2005 and by 2008 was already a pro.

And that's with AJ having all the time in the world to dedicate to the sport, a cousin in boxing, and the UK boxing system treating him like a king.

Wilder was working 2 jobs, and caring for his daughter, no **** he was fighting dishwashers, he was one himself!

AJ was earning millions by his 2nd year while Wilder was fighting for pennies

This is your classic hard worker vs everything handed to you type comparison and you're talking down on the guy that worked for it all.

If this is your perception it's false and idiotic, but your op gives your bias away anyhow.

AJ didn't have it easy, and even today he trains like a demon, and he trains all year round, and when in camp, in spite of all his money he stays in a humble apartment and sleeps in basically a box room. Your ignorance for a hard-core boxing fan is astounding.

He has had the road almost any super talented amateur has had.

Wilder as a pro has been moved slowly, very slowly. It's the right decision and he has been well looked after.

How old is Tyson Fury? 30? Well id imagine he's been learning to fight for 28 years then.

[Tyistall]

In his 16th amateur win, he won the Golden Gloves.

In his 21st amateur win, he passed the Olympic trials.

In his 30th amateur win, he won an Olympic bronze medal.

Yeah and in 42 fights, he's fought 2 guys with a pulse and has ran from every chance to unify the titles. Plus he won a bronze medal...not gold or silver, a bronze...that means 3rd place hahaha

[QueensburyRules]

Fury-AJ-Wilder all started boxing within 2 years of each other.

Wilder in '05
Fury '06 (possibly earlier)
AJ in '07


Wilder was working 2 jobs to support his family & trying to pick up a sport he's never heard of.

Fury comes from a notorious bareknuckle boxing family and was exposed to the sport early on.

AJ was treated like a prince in the UK, living with mummy, access to world class trainers, equipment, nutrition etc. AJ stayed in the amateurs from 2007-2013.


All things considered Wilder's progress as a pro has been pretty damn good. People are quick to criticize a guy that did all his learning in the pros but will be quick to suck the dicks of guys that have been hiding in the amateurs with headgear for close to a decade or more.

- -AJ started in 2013 and already the unified champ making a kings ransom.

Fury whooped the all time HOF great in his own backyard.

Deyonce beat Stiverne and set the record for short notice TBA title defenses for peanuts. You one of his peanuts?

[Cutthroat]

If this is your perception it's false and idiotic, but your op gives your bias away anyhow.

AJ didn't have it easy, and even today he trains like a demon, and he trains all year round, and when in camp, in spite of all his money he stays in a humble apartment and sleeps in basically a box room. Your ignorance for a hard-core boxing fan is astounding.

He has had the road almost any super talented amateur has had.

Wilder as a pro has been moved slowly, very slowly. It's the right decision and he has been well looked after.

How old is Tyson Fury? 30? Well id imagine he's been learning to fight for 28 years then.

AJ-Wilder is a tale of privileged vs poor

AJ literally grew up with rich parents that paid for private school and had properties in the suburbs of the UK.

Wilder grew up in Alabama, like it doesn't get much more opposite lol, Bama is one of the poorest, hardest, ghetto states in the entirety of the USA.


Wilder was working 2 jobs to support a daughter with health issues AND boxing.

AJ was living with his parents in the suburbs, partying, selling drugs.


AJ had access to world class facilities and the world class UK boxing program.

Wilder a regular boxing gym, USA's piss poor boxing program.


AJ was treated like a celeb as an amateur, Wilder a nobody.


AJ was earning $5 million by his 2nd year to fight that bum Whyte. Took Wilder 10 years to earn that against that monster Ortiz.


Who you trying to fool? AJ had it as easy as it gets.

[mathed]

PBC shills always on damage control duty, lol

[Tails]

The way I see it is that Wilder was held back in his career both from his management and himself to a certain degree because he simply wasn't at that point where he could confidently step up to the elite level. I don't see anything wrong with that because certain fighters peak and decline at different ages. Wilder from five years ago would more than likely get handily beat by the top fighters because he was still susceptible to getting hit with some easily avoidable shots.

Awkward style aside, Wilder has developed his right hand delivery (getting his power to land) and defense (still not where it needs to be) just enough to where he is a threat to anyone he steps in the ring with. I've always said that a good boxer isn't someone that necessarily moves a lot or pressures, or is very defensive or offensive. A good boxer is someone that knows what they do good and how to play to their strengths.