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Old 11-10-2019, 01:53 PM #41
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Campbell and Linares are more accomplished then anyone Teofimo, Haney or Commey ever fought.


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If Teofimo beats Richard Commey, I would rank Lopez higher than Devin Haney -- Commey is a better win than euro-bum Luke Campbell and a shot Linares, so that also applies to Vagisil Bumchenko.

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Old 11-10-2019, 01:53 PM #42
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No one takes you seriously when you use 5th grade name contortions. Sorry but it's the truth. You just appear to be immature and childish. Low IQ too. Sad that you're wasting your time on here trying to make a point.
I dont usually reply to new members to filter out alts, thats all I got for you.
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Old 11-10-2019, 02:02 PM #43
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The informed fan knows that a legit belt carries mandatory of the highest ranked contenders in the WBC, who regularly must compete in eliminators against the highest available ranked opponent for a opportunity to fight for the title. 'Franchise' Championships do not apply any of these criteria's, it is only a honorary title with no legitimate lineage.

Even the WBA 'Super' title have mandatories with some standards applied.
The title means whatever the governing body who made the belt says it means. Haney was mandatory for how long? Didnít even wait after the unification fight to give Haney the belt. But I understand the wbc needed to make both top rank and matchroom happy. This was a business move from them nothing more.
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Old 11-10-2019, 02:03 PM #44
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Crawford didnít have to win two WBC belts to be undisputed. Neither does Loma. These haters love to change the rules to align with their bias.
I don't know how you manage to stay above the fray. Personally I get sucked right into it and end up getting just as nasty.

My hats off to you for speaking your mind and not ending up muddy with the angry shlt slingers.
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Old 11-10-2019, 02:04 PM #45
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I dont usually reply to new members to filter out alts, thats all I got for you.
Your post shows you lack an ability to communicate clearly. You should work on yourself. You're a loser trying to comment on highly skilled warriors.

You're the equivalent of a fifteen year old bottom of the barrel amateur fighter who has a lot to learn. So easy to be a fool like you and give his two cents. At least take some pride in it and learn linguistics.

I'll say it concisely, you are a bottom of the barrel amateur not worth anyone's time.

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Old 11-10-2019, 02:19 PM #46
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Fight the Lopez/commey winner and then fight Haney. I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Old 11-10-2019, 02:23 PM #47
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The title means whatever the governing body who made the belt says it means. Haney was mandatory for how long? Didn’t even wait after the unification fight to give Haney the belt. But I understand the wbc needed to make both top rank and matchroom happy. This was a business move from them nothing more.
So the WBC can make a 'Super Franchise' belt above the 'Franchise' title and that will also count as a world title and qualifies for a 'unification' using this logic.

Waiting periods are irrelevant, following protocol is what matters. The decision by the WBC to bypass a legit ranked top 2 contender was unprecedented given that the World Boxing Council does not rank champions; Loma was the WBA champion, that disqualifies him, but like you acknowledged it was all about money or politics.

Haney fought his eliminators and was due his shot vs. Luke Campbell whilst honoring the WBC rules to win a shot at the lightweight championship. Vagisil Bumchenko has handed a belt, Devin Haney is the true rightful WBC champion.
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Old 11-10-2019, 02:23 PM #48
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He doesn't have the WBC strap right now, though. He dropped it for some reason.
Didn't the WBC declare him the Franchise Champ? According to them, Loma is the champ and never has to fight a mandatory. I agree that it's BS, but he doesn't have to fight Haney. Haney is like the Junior Varsity champ.
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Beyond a promotional "Dream", I can't figure out how Haney is even in the same conversation with Loma.
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Fight the Lopez/commey winner and then fight Haney. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Exactly. Loma has already stated Tank and Haney are good fights for him in 2020 after he fights for the fourth belt and becomes undisputed.
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