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Old 04-20-2019, 07:45 AM #1
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This whole time I was thinking 6 months. Fook no. Didn’t realize the severity. I agree with everyone else, this guy was an idiot. Wait, and EPO?!

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Old 04-20-2019, 07:51 AM #2
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I think hes done tbh. Don't matter how long hes banned for. Doubt he can compete even at the level of Bogdan Dinu without being juiced. Whole careers in doubt.
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Old 04-20-2019, 08:05 AM #3
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I don't want to see Jarrell Miller in a boxing ring ever again. Who knows how many of past fights he was juicing in? Could even have been throughout his whole career. There's interviews on YouTube with many people in boxing, dating back as far as 2016, were people allude to Miller being on PEDs. He turned down a rank with the WBC years back because he didn't want to sign up for the testing. It is obvious this dude has been juicing longterm. He will deny it though and make out like it was just this one fight. Nah, I don't want to see him back.
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Old 04-20-2019, 08:25 AM #4
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I don't want to see Jarrell Miller in a boxing ring ever again. Who knows how many of past fights he was juicing in? Could even have been throughout his whole career. There's interviews on YouTube with many people in boxing, dating back as far as 2016, were people allude to Miller being on PEDs. He turned down a rank with the WBC years back because he didn't want to sign up for the testing. It is obvious this dude has been juicing longterm. He will deny it though and make out like it was just this one fight. Nah, I don't want to see him back.
Likely many other previous fights, the guy had incredible work-rate for such a big guy nearly weighing 300lbs. I always thought to myself that sure is odd, but naively I never thought steroids.

Wish the rules were as harsh on their money queens, but we all know they will make an example of one lesser guy when they could have done it to Canelo.
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Old 04-20-2019, 08:30 AM #5
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Likely many other previous fights, the guy had incredible work-rate for such a big guy nearly weighing 300lbs. I always thought to myself that sure is odd, but naively I never thought steroids.

Wish the rules were as harsh on their money queens, but we all know they will make an example of one lesser guy when they could have done it to Canelo.
The Dinu and Adamek fights Hearn was getting **** for how long it was taking for announcement for who Miller was facing. Dude was delaying the fights so no testing could happen
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Old 04-20-2019, 08:36 AM #6
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The Dinu and Adamek fights Hearn was getting **** for how long it was taking for announcement for who Miller was facing. Dude was delaying the fights so no testing could happen
If you have to use EPO and whatever else to beat a 40+ year old Tomasz Adamek who was barely a heavyweight, you should really consider quitting. It all sounds so disgusting when you think back on the past few fights he has had. To top it off he was portraying himself as one of these honest down to earth good guys.

Such an idiot.
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I hate to see a man go down but cheating should get you banned. Once should be severe (about a year or two) twice, life. Simple as that clean up the sport
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Likely many other previous fights, the guy had incredible work-rate for such a big guy nearly weighing 300lbs. I always thought to myself that sure is odd, but naively I never thought steroids.

Wish the rules were as harsh on their money queens, but we all know they will make an example of one lesser guy when they could have done it to Canelo.
Suspensions for PEDS take into account the amount found and the time. Strict liability was counted for with Canelo as anyone else. The reality is VADA knows whatís going on with everyone at the molecular level. Advanced testing is so complicated because of contracts. Contracts overrule everything and an agency can not do anything. If a contract specifically states that an agency canít disclose a finding publicly then they canít. Promoters and commissions take action. Then youíve got 365. There isnít consistency in boxing. Even supplements create more complexity with adverse findings and which is why contracts go into details or else there wouldnít be any money in boxing.

I repeat, there wouldnít be any money in boxing if it werenít for contracts. Millerís case is pure stupidity... itís as if team regimen wanted to bail out in a ******ed way.
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Old 04-20-2019, 08:45 AM #9
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I hate to see a man go down but cheating should get you banned. Once should be severe (about a year or two) twice, life. Simple as that clean up the sport
Yes but context is everything and the details. Thatís the whole point of a judicial system. Two robbers or whatever it may be, all have different verdicts, sentencing based on context, facts, and circumstances.

How was Francisco Vargas allowed to fight whom had double of Canelo and his findings closer to his fight. I donít understand why boxing fans donít question testimony by authorities. If the CSAC says Vargas Can fight because it was ďsmall amountĒ and ďso far away,Ē though not as far as Canelo, whom had half of Vargas - both Clenbuterol, or Margaret Goodman saying Vargas would be given a second chance but didnít say anything for Canelo yet FACTS show Canelo would TECHNICALLY have a lesser sentence than Vargas...

Was it because VADA didnít want to challenge Conte/SNAC Vargas?

Most boxing fans are idiots. These facts alone would tell you that you would ride with Canelo, showing the corruption and possible bias to different affiliates (Conte). Everyone saying Canelo would have bias yet was suspended CLEARLY SHOWS that VADA had bias to Conte affiliation in that instance.

Again people, thereís no consistency in advanced drug testing. Letís stop comparing Miller to Canelo. Thatís ******ed.

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Old 04-20-2019, 08:47 AM #10
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3 substances in the build up to a title fight means he'll get an example made of him.

He shouldn't get near a ring again.

But in reality he'll get a year or two. If that happens he should have to pay for regular testing throughout his ban and constantly out of competition afterwards.
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