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Old 04-17-2019, 12:43 PM #11
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Wake me up when Arum draws and sends an official offer. In the meantime, all I'm smelling is fear from the Loma fanboys.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:45 PM #12
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he wasn't prime throughout, but he was very "well preserved," to quote the fellowship of the ring.

a lot went into that, mostly positive. he preserved his body outside of the ring with no bad habits. he was the best defensive fighter ever and he took hardly any punishment in most of his wins. but he also picked his opponents carefully and avoided fights or put them off. he retired for a period in time. did not fight pacquiao or cotto in their primes when the fights could have been made. yeah, it made a lot more money for everybody doing it his way. but it's just a fact that the pacquiao fight took place after manny had been knocked out by marquez, and cotto had taken two career changing beatings and was nowhere near the fighter he was pior to antonio margarito. didn't fight paul williams, didn't fight margarito, because they were too tall, their chins were too good
Cotto and pacquiao both rejected fights with mayweather.

So that just disproves everything you said.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:58 PM #13
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Cotto and pacquiao both rejected fights with mayweather.

So that just disproves everything you said.
Exactly.


How do you duck someone by requesting you both do random blood test?


I guess haters gonna hate.
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Old 04-17-2019, 01:01 PM #14
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He's just following Floyd's blueprint: wait till they're not in their prime anymore.
while Floyd is older than them?

Did Floyd drink from the fountain of youth or is he just a mere mortal who happened to be the best?
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Old 04-17-2019, 01:07 PM #15
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Tank waiting to fight Loma is the same thing as Loma not fighting Berchelt at 130 and then eventually fighting him at 135, which appears to be the plan.

History teaches us that all promoters make fights when its best for their fighter, not when its best for their fighter's opponent.

Take ODH, he fought everyone, but waited a long time before he fought Floyd, who called him out for years prior to them fighting. Arum made the fight when the payday was maximized. Meanwhile, he fought Vargas very soon after he called him out and disparaged him.

This is NSB so if the discussion involves a Haymon/Floyd associated fighter posters are going to take a different position than they would if a fighter associated with Arum, Hearn or another promoter did same.
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Old 04-17-2019, 01:20 PM #16
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Cotto and pacquiao both rejected fights with mayweather.

So that just disproves everything you said.
all your post proves is that you don't look into things or even care to.

pacquiao ducks floyd how? the same way floyd ducks pacquiao? by demanding a blood test? offering 40 million bucks [
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cotto floyd left bob arum and briefly retired during cotto's prime.


if you were watching boxing at the time you'd know that bob arum offered floyd an INSANE amout of money in teh context of boxing at the time and also floyd's career, 8 million f#cking dollars, to fight antonio margarito. off of that margarito got a reputation as being the most avoided man in boxing, because floyd avoided the fight! really! it was a career high payday and the offer is super well documented.


you're just disilusioned if you think floyd and haymon didn't position his career for money. in the process he cemented one of the best legacies ever! but that doesn't negate the fact that the guy did not fight prime competition at welterweight and that the best names on his resume at the weight [where he made more money than any boxer ever, incidentally
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Old 04-17-2019, 01:31 PM #17
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all your post proves is that you don't look into things or even care to.

pacquiao ducks floyd how? the same way floyd ducks pacquiao? by demanding a blood test? offering 40 million bucks [
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cotto floyd left bob arum and briefly retired during cotto's prime.


if you were watching boxing at the time you'd know that bob arum offered floyd an INSANE amout of money in teh context of boxing at the time and also floyd's career, 8 million f#cking dollars, to fight antonio margarito. off of that margarito got a reputation as being the most avoided man in boxing, because floyd avoided the fight! really! it was a career high payday and the offer is super well documented.


you're just disilusioned if you think floyd and haymon didn't position his career for money. in the process he cemented one of the best legacies ever! but that doesn't negate the fact that the guy did not fight prime competition at welterweight and that the best names on his resume at the weight [where he made more money than any boxer ever, incidentally
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Lol. Stupid hater. Do you read your own post?


So what was 40 million to pacquiao?
Or better yet the original 50/50 offer?

But Floyd is supposed to turn down the highest grossing fight of all time with Oscar for 8 million?




Stfu
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Old 04-17-2019, 01:38 PM #18
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all your post proves is that you don't look into things or even care to.

pacquiao ducks floyd how? the same way floyd ducks pacquiao? by demanding a blood test? offering 40 million bucks [ ?]

cotto floyd left bob arum and briefly retired during cotto's prime.


if you were watching boxing at the time you'd know that bob arum offered floyd an INSANE amout of money in teh context of boxing at the time and also floyd's career, 8 million f#cking dollars, to fight antonio margarito. off of that margarito got a reputation as being the most avoided man in boxing, because floyd avoided the fight! really! it was a career high payday and the offer is super well documented.


you're just disilusioned if you think floyd and haymon didn't position his career for money. in the process he cemented one of the best legacies ever! but that doesn't negate the fact that the guy did not fight prime competition at welterweight and that the best names on his resume at the weight [where he made more money than any boxer ever, incidentally ] were all over the hill.
Pacquiao backing out and rejecting the biggest fight of his career because of drug testing is a DUCK on his end.
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His promoter coming up with more excuses as the years went on just proves my point even more. Only casuals, pactrds and floyd haters like to ignore the truth about this though.

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Cotto and his team saying Cotto wasn't ready to face floyd when they were both at 140 isn't floyd's fault. That is all on cotto

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Oh and since you brought up Margarito. Lets not forget the fact that Arum wouldn't promise the de la hoya fight, which promoted floyd to leave top rank. Who was Margarito signed to? You guessed it top rank.

It's also funny how you guys rewrite history. Baldomir was supposedly the guy Floyd was "ducking" and was considered the welterweight champion. But once floyd beat him margatirto became the guy floyd was ducking. This is the truth

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Old 04-17-2019, 02:16 PM #19
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he wasn't prime throughout, but he was very "well preserved," to quote the fellowship of the ring.

a lot went into that, mostly positive. he preserved his body outside of the ring with no bad habits. he was the best defensive fighter ever and he took hardly any punishment in most of his wins. but he also picked his opponents carefully and avoided fights or put them off. he retired for a period in time. did not fight pacquiao or cotto in their primes when the fights could have been made. yeah, it made a lot more money for everybody doing it his way. but it's just a fact that the pacquiao fight took place after manny had been knocked out by marquez, and cotto had taken two career changing beatings and was nowhere near the fighter he was pior to antonio margarito. didn't fight paul williams, didn't fight margarito, because they were too tall, their chins were too good
Youre not lying, Floyd came back from retirement and fought Marquez then an old ass Mosley.

a lot of it was luck too tho, he fought Mosley after he beat up margs, which made that fight look better than it really was.

unlike your avatar ( I never understood the hate ward got considered he fought everybody he could)
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Who he gon fight period? Aint but so much money u gon make fighting nobodiea
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