Sorry Americans, Ukraine is now the number 1 boxing nation

[boliodogs]

Loma, Usyk and Gvodzdyk.

3 kings whipping guys in their back yard and taking home all the belts and multiple FOTY awards.

Americans like Spence Thurman Davis and Crawford KNOW they will always get preferential treatment and big paydays so they just coast along and have one big fight every 5 years or something. There are exceptions like Danny Jacobs etc but usually it's like this.

The Ukrainians are out for glory. Beautiful to watch.

They are 3 excellent champions but why do you single out the USA for your trashing? Pro boxing is a sport of individuals not a national team sport. How does Ukraine compare with Mexico, Japan, Russia and your own country? Spence, Crawford and Davis all came to your back yard and beat the hell out of your best fighters. As an American boxing fan I am a fan of many good boxers from all over the world and the country they live in makes no difference to me. You sound like you have a grudge against American boxing as so many UK fans do. If Gvodzdyk tries to take Bivol's belt I think Bivol knocks him out. Gyodzdyk owns one belt not 4 belts so don't get carried away with him just yet.

[187 Proof]

Mexico has Carlos Licona at 105, Emanuel Navarrete and Rey Vargas at 122, Oscar Valdez and Leo Santa Cruz at 126, Miguel Berchelt at 130, Jaime Munguia at 154, Canelo at 160 and Gilberto Ramirez at 168. That's 9 champions with 10 belts.

As far as Mexican-Americans there's Daniel Roman at 122, Mikey Garcia at 135, and Jose Ramirez at 140.

That's 12 Mexican champions with 13 belts.

As far as African-Americans go there's Gary Russell Jr. at 126, Tevin Farmer and Gervonta Davis at 130, Maurice Hooker at 140, Terence Crawford, Errol Spence, Keith Thurman and Shawn Porter at 147, Jarret Hurd and Jermell Charlo at 154, Demetrius Andrade and Daniel Jacobs at 160, and Deontay Wilder at 200+. That's 13 champions with 14 belts.

That's 27 belts held by Mexicans and African-Americans.

By my count all of Europe combined has 19 belts, . And 4 of those belts belong to a black guy and an Arab (Anthony Joshua and Kal Yafai), .

Europe is the region that produces the best boxers doe, jajajajajajajajajajajajajaja!!!

And one of the main reasons these Euro bums have titles is because guys Terence Crawford and Mikey Garcia vacate them, jajajajajajajajaja!!!

[Robbie Barrett]

LOL :: What a clown

You think Lomachenko can beat them? You're the clown.

[sabor]

What's funny? A little Lomachenko isn't beating a Joshua or a Fury, that's why we have weight divisions. The reality is the HW's are the best boxers on the planet.

What are you smoking? Boxing is a skill. Loma is rank #1 p4p for a reason. Joshua and fury isn’t even in top 5.

[Robbie Barrett]

What are you smoking? Boxing is a skill. Loma is rank #1 p4p for a reason. Joshua and fury isn’t even in top 5.

We have the fantasy P4P because the little guys can't beat the HW in real life, only in fantasy fights.

[kidbazooka]

Mexico has Carlos Licona at 105, Emanuel Navarrete and Rey Vargas at 122, Oscar Valdez and Leo Santa Cruz at 126, Miguel Berchelt at 130, Jaime Munguia at 154, Canelo at 160 and Gilberto Ramirez at 168. That's 9 champions with 10 belts.

As far as Mexican-Americans there's Daniel Roman at 122, Mikey Garcia at 135, and Jose Ramirez at 140.

That's 12 Mexican champions with 13 belts.

As far as African-Americans go there's Gary Russell Jr. at 126, Tevin Farmer and Gervonta Davis at 130, Maurice Hooker at 140, Terence Crawford, Errol Spence, Keith Thurman and Shawn Porter at 147, Jarret Hurd and Jermell Charlo at 154, Demetrius Andrade and Daniel Jacobs at 160, and Deontay Wilder at 200+. That's 13 champions with 14 belts.

That's 27 belts held by Mexicans and African-Americans.

By my count all of Europe combined has 19 belts, . And 4 of those belts belong to a black guy and an Arab (Anthony Joshua and Kal Yafai), .

Europe is the region that produces the best boxers doe, jajajajajajajajajajajajajaja!!!

And one of the main reasons these Euro bums have titles is because guys Terence Crawford and Mikey Garcia vacate them, jajajajajajajajaja!!!

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[elfag]

Loma, Usyk and Gvodzdyk.

3 kings whipping guys in their back yard and taking home all the belts and multiple FOTY awards.

Americans like Spence Thurman Davis and Crawford KNOW they will always get preferential treatment and big paydays so they just coast along and have one big fight every 5 years or something. There are exceptions like Danny Jacobs etc but usually it's like this.

The Ukrainians are out for glory. Beautiful to watch.

Tell Loma to stop ducking American Mikey Garcia, hes in his own damn weight glass but "too big".

I guess Loma could always bring a 38 year old up 2 divisions to fight him

[filup79]

AJ, Fury, Billy Jo Saunders, Kell Brook, Amir Khan, Callum Smith, Eubank, Joyce

Uk is leading

Kell Brook? LMAO Brook is the only fighter who gets all this hall of fame status for beating euro bums for 10 years + and beating Porter and getting his faced smashed in by GGG and Spence. Yet he somehow always found a way to get out fights against Bradley, Alexander, Chavez, Rios and Vargas.

[Mexican_Puppet]

I'm not sure there's a #1 boxing nation. America still has the most professionals and maybe the most champions and most people entering the sport, training etc;

I think Europe in general is the strongest region currently as far as elite fighters go and highest number of champions with Eastern Europe being stronger than Western. Asia being the far and away leader bantamweight and below currently.

What I will say is that since the Eastern Europeans have being turning pro at a higher rate (in the past it wasn't allowed or plain very difficult to turn pro), having more success in general I think with good teaching, training etc; the sport is leading in the direction like when Latino fighters were coming more and more into prominence in the 50's and 60's where they are here to stay and succeed as much as that pains many. The British boxing scene is at it's peak and producing at a higher rate than previous too. Numbers-wise Eastern Europe is still at the minimum turning pro and such but that will change in time too.

Boxing has always had these cycles. It was the Irish, then the Italians and Jews (mostly from Eastern Europe), then African Americans, then the Latino's, now it's the Europeans.

Bottom line just enjoy it because great fighters and great styles and people call from all over and all add value and contribute to the sport. Don't cut yourself off to regions and countries like posters here like Mexican puppet, 187 proof, Shadoww, mcdonalds etc;

Lomas Daddy is Salido.

GGG daddy is GGG.

México is the nightmare of eastern euros, and black americans are better too.


México and U.S.A are the only countries that always are in the top, since 1960.

México always had more champions than other countries of LatinAmerica.

When Cuba went off of the pro boxing, México had more champions than them.

Right now México have 12 champions.

[Sparked_26]

The top Eastern Euros in general seek the best competition early.

Conversely, you have one of the top fighters in the sport in Crawford have top rank trying to pay Khan $5 million for God knows what.