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The proposal reflects a wider trend of social media surveillance under Trump.


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If you're claiming disability benefits, a latergram of you hiking or going out dancing could soon get you in trouble. A proposed Trump administration rule would allow agency officials to snoop on the social media accounts of Social Security disability recipients. The White House is working with the Social Security Administration to propose a new rule that allow for social media monitoring in order to crack down on fraud, [Link View Has Been Removed. Click Here To Unlock This Content.] the New York Times.




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People who collect disability benefits, known as Social Security Disability Insurance, receive monthly payments after not being able to work for a year or more due to a disability. Families of deceased beneficiaries are also eligible for these payments in some cases. The disability must limit the recipient's ability to "do basic work such as lifting, standing, walking, sitting, and remembering for at least 12 months", [Link View Has Been Removed. Click Here To Unlock This Content.] to the agency website.

While Republicans love the Trump administration proposal, disability rights advocates are worried that Facebook photos could be an inaccurate barometer of a person's current physical state. "Just because someone posted a photograph of them golfing or going fishing in February of 2019 does not mean that the activity occurred in 2019," chairwoman of the Consortium for Citizens with Disabilities Lisa D. Ekman [Link View Has Been Removed. Click Here To Unlock This Content.]the Times.

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Old 03-11-2019, 05:43 PM #2
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Oh hell no. This is going too far. So just because someone's disabled, they get spied on by the government? What in blue hell? And they want to target people online that disagree with Trump putting kids in cages?
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Oh hell no. This is going too far. So just because someone's disabled, they get spied on by the government? What in blue hell? And they want to target people online that disagree with Trump putting kids in cages?



When your FB profile is set to "private" guess who's going to give gov access?
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Don't investigators already check this and follow people around to make sure things are on the up and up? If it's mental, a little more difficult and as someone on disability, trust me, you don't get rich off of it. As soon as your benefits increase, so do your premiums for medical insurance. It's basically like living on minimum wage though, it's for living expenses and it's not like the government wasn't doing this already. If you're really someone lying about this stuff though, you should be like someone on the run and be as low tech as possible anyway, using cash being online as little as possible, all that stuff. If you're talking about committing any kind of crime online that you weren't already convicted of or that the statute of limitations hasn't run out on, then you're a moron and deserve to get caught.
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FYI for all you kids out there, insurance companies already do this for worker's comp fraud, insurance fraud, etc. In fact, that only scratches the surface of what they can and will do. You guys didn't care until you saw the name "Trump".
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FYI for all you kids out there, insurance companies already do this for worker's comp fraud, insurance fraud, etc. In fact, that only scratches the surface of what they can and will do. You guys didn't care until you saw the name "Trump".

Can't you just use a fake name and no real photos of yourself?

I mean, wouldn't they have to go through your phone/ISP to get your social media identity if you just didn't use your real info on it?
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what disabled people cant enjoy a hike or a late night partying?
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Can't you just use a fake name and no real photos of yourself?

I mean, wouldn't they have to go through your phone/ISP to get your social media identity if you just didn't use your real info on it?
Sure, but that doesn't really make sense in a social media context. If I make an account using the name Irwin Humperdink, not only will my friends not know who TF that is, but they're going to think I'm a fking weirdo.
Most people use their real names so they can interact with friends, which is the whole purpose of a social media acct.

My wife gets expensive medications for a work injury and the ins has gone to insane lengths to try to pull her coverage. They had PIs follow us around and monitor our home. When she was first fighting them in court they even told her I was having an affair, in hopes that disrupting her life would make her give up on her claim. The stuff that's already going on is far more hardcore than anything the admin has proposed. In fact, the govt is way behind the times here.
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Sure, but that doesn't really make sense in a social media context. If I make an account using the name Irwin Humperdink, not only will my friends not know who TF that is, but they're going to think I'm a fking weirdo.
Most people use their real names so they can interact with friends, which is the whole purpose of a social media acct.

My wife gets expensive medications for a work injury and the ins has gone to insane lengths to try to pull her coverage. They had PIs follow us around and monitor our home. When she was first fighting them in court they even told her I was having an affair, in hopes that disrupting her life would make her give up on her claim. The stuff that's already going on is far more hardcore than anything the admin has proposed. In fact, the govt is way behind the times here.
Damn that is hardcore and seems like it should be harassment. They go pretty freaking low to try and save money.
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