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Old 12-06-2019, 03:22 AM #81
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I'll give you a three reasons. 1) He has all the money he'll ever need 2) To fight on would not add to his legacy 3) Why risk the brain damage that getting hit too many times in the head can bring
Yes, all very valid reasons, I'll give you that.

None of them, however, point to his inability to get back into contention for a World Title and then becoming Undisputed. That's what the real HW title is now, not a division full of random champions, a new UD Champ, right?
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Old 12-06-2019, 03:31 AM #82
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Here I agree with you fully. But Joshua wanted to be like Lewis who wished the Rahman 2 rematch as soon as he could as he was very confident rthat he will regain the title. The truth is that losing for second time with the same guy is very bad for weak psyche, so to speak.
Lewis did correct thing, Joshua -- we shall see, but if he loses imagine what would have Lewis looked like if Rahman (smaller and physically weaker) KOed him again.
I still think Lewis would have gone on to become an ATG. And I guess that asks a whole another question, how weak is the psyche if he does lose again?

Bottom line, I really rate Ruiz but there is so much talk about how Ruiz shocked Joshua, its not all one way, if Ruiz is SOOOO much better (as the Ruiz bandwagon wants to shout about so much) why can't Joshua shock Ruiz? Its just as likely as the first fight.

I'm looking forward to the fight, I want Joshua to win.
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I think people should realize some things now. I am not a Joshua fan but the truth is this guy knows how to promote and has a huge following, I mean just look at the forum for example...everyday thread after thread either people wanting him to lose again or to win. Then look at Beyonce Wilder's last fight, there was one fkn thread I think and BPP made it because he felt bad for Wilder lol. No one gave a sh** about him fighting a 50 year old aahhahahahahahhahha and then people talk about him deserving a 50/50 split against Joshua, man he can be happy if he gets 10%, his only fan base is a few convicts from Alabama lol
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Old 12-06-2019, 12:00 PM #84
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Yes, all very valid reasons, I'll give you that.

None of them, however, point to his inability to get back into contention for a World Title and then becoming Undisputed. That's what the real HW title is now, not a division full of random champions, a new UD Champ, right?
I would have to agree with you. If self-respect and fan respect mean enough to Joshua this will motivate him to continuing in his chosen sport. The one unknown at the present time though is has he given up mentally. We will find out over the course of his next several fights.
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Oh, OK, my bad for not understanding you, you made it sound like Wlad lost to Peter and that's why he ducked Wilder to not loose again. Because being a heavyweight, why would someone duck being afraid of knockdowns: that's heavyweight afterall, people hit hard.
Klitschko preferred to fight Stiverne for the WBC belt. When Wilder refused to step aside, he fought Jennings and Fury instead. Even when Fury opted out of the rematch, he stayed retired for another year until Joshua came on the scene, no longer interested in fighting for the one belt he never possessed. So yes, Klitschko wanted nothing to do with Wilder...
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:52 PM #86
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Klitschko preferred to fight Stiverne for the WBC belt. When Wilder refused to step aside, he fought Jennings and Fury instead. Even when Fury opted out of the rematch, he stayed retired for another year until Joshua came on the scene, no longer interested in fighting for the one belt he never possessed. So yes, Klitschko wanted nothing to do with Wilder...
I don't exactly remember Wilder calling out Klitschko. Did he? Before after Fury or even Joshua fight?
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I don't exactly remember Wilder calling out Klitschko. Did he? Before after Fury or even Joshua fight?
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Like I said... drugs ARE bad. You memory has become ego imagination. Hearn threw up every road block he could. From an 80 to 20 split (for 2 undefeated, unquestionable champions) which is basically a **** off deal, to trying to get Wilder to fight any of his other guys (Dillon Whyte) through political bodies. Joshua went right along with it like a puppy dog proving he didnt want to face Wilder either. Hearn knew Joshua was just hype, his hype. His been milking AJs udders like a pro. You suckers drank it up, straight from the tit. Now yer all butthurt and looking for a scapegoat. You got jobbed son. Welcome to boxing.

80/20 split? well if your just gonna lie you're not worth talking to.

BTW Finkel DID call Wilder a 'baby HW' when saying he wasn't ready for Wlad'.
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