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  • #31
    Gonna bump this thread after Rigo loses all rounds... Lol

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    • #32
      Originally posted by STAX ON DECK View Post
      look guys i like lomachekekoko but he cant beat rigo as the styles doesnt mix well,,,,,

      lomsachenko likes to throw punches in punches a bit like papquioa but wit a bit more finesee and skill,,,, but we seen what happen when he gets in there with a sharpshooter like floyd or marquez,,, he gets confused and tentititive,,,,,

      well guess what???? loma hasnt been in with that caliber of fighter yet and hes stepping in with one of the best ever counter punchrs,,,,, he wont be able to just let his hands go and do all that posing sht rigo will punish him,,,,,

      guys im telling you yall will be in for a shock if you think lomachekko got this,.,,,,,,
      Your right about ANY fighter that fights a GREAT counter puncher like May,Sweet Pea gets tentative and don't trow as many punches as thet do in other fights.And the more I think about this the more I think Rigo might be the one guys that can beat Loma.I cant see anyother fighter his size living with him but I just keep getting this feeling that Rigo is gonna make him lead and counter and like other guys like him he hits ALOT harder then people think.This is a REALLY tough fight to pick and anybody that says different cant see it.

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      • #33
        I wonder what drives OP to pretend to be illiterate

        I mean, who even types with 40 commas every post

        Originally posted by Shontae De'marc View Post
        Apology accepted

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        • #34
          I think Rigo should be the underdog by virtue of weight difference, but it's not that bad like say Pacquiao vs those huge guys he fought because at the very least Rigo has always this long reach and with his skill he can always manipulate this to his advantage. Unlike, Pacquiao who is not only short in height, but has extremely short reach too--Pacquiao is what we call legit midget. He is not hiding on long reach or false weight, he eats like 2000-4000 calories more just to fight a proper welterweight. Rigo situation should not be that bad.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by richardt View Post
            Wrong. Rigo uses timing and accuracy to score points and power is only the side product of his timing and accuracy. Weight is only a factor in a grueling fight when a fighter leans on and wears out the opponent. History is littered with countless examples of guys jumping weight divisions and winning. Thats how they become 3 and 4 division champs. A so-called smaller fighter can be faster as well and use that over a slower heavier fighter as history has shown. And Rigo has the reach advantage which is also part of the size equation as well as having fought guys who were much taller than Lom. This fight will come down to skills and they fighter who is more skilled or adjusts better to the other guy's game will win.

            Rigo uses timing and accuracy to score points and power is only the side product of his timing and accuracy.
            Raw punching power is always determined by someone's weight. The heavier someone is, the higher potential for punching power they will have. Accuracy and timing are assets which allows someone to apply power most effectively.

            When two boxers are as evenly matched in skills as Rigondeaux and Lomachenko are. Timing and accuracy of both boxers are usually even / equal.

            Also, we don't know how effective Rigo's power is going to be against 130 pound boxers. Boxers don't always carry their power to a higher weight division and remain equally effective. Example is Manny Pacquiao. In 140 pounds, he destroyed Ricky Hatton and knocked him out cold. Yet, he landed those same punches for 12 rounds on Antonio Margarito and wasn't able to even drop him. Weight improves punch resistance! A heavier boxer can often walk through the lighter boxer's punches. Especially if the weight difference is significant.

            Weight is only a factor in a grueling fight when a fighter leans on and wears out the opponent.
            That's false! Weight is a factor when landing punches on the opponent and when absorbing opponent's punches. There's a reason why only weight divisions exist (along with gender divisions) and not timing divisions, accuracy divisions, speed divisions, reach divisions, height divisions and etc. This is because weight and gender are the most significant factors which determines the outcome of a boxing match.

            Getting hit by a 250 pound boxer is going to feel totally different (will inflict greater damage) than getting punched by a 150 pound boxer. Likewise, getting hit by a punch if you were to weigh 250 pounds is going to have less effect than if you were to get hit by the same punch and if you were to weigh 150 pounds.

            History is littered with countless examples of guys jumping weight divisions and winning. Thats how they become 3 and 4 division champs. A so-called smaller fighter can be faster as well and use that over a slower heavier fighter as history has shown.
            All of this is true if the lighter boxer moving up in weight has a SIGNIFICANT skill advantage over the heavier boxer. In the case of Pacquiao moving up and beating the much heavier Margarito due to a significant skill advantage. However, this become very different when the lighter boxer moving up has to box against the best of that weight division. This is the case between Rigondeaux and Lomachenko.

            Rigondeaux was able to beat the bigger and heavier Nonito Donaire (due to a significant skill advantage). He isn't going to possess that advantage against Lomachenko since both are evenly matched in the skill department.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
              Sounds racist to me or your just stupid.
              It's my way of mocking racism. The thread starter is a troll and I refuse to post anything intelligent.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Derranged View Post
                It's my way of mocking racism. The thread starter is a troll and I refuse to post anything intelligent.
                Ok but your getting caught in the cross fire..The Mods are looking to ban people.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
                  Ok but your getting caught in the cross fire..The Mods are looking to ban people.
                  Thanks..............

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ganstaz003 View Post
                    Raw punching power is always determined by someone's weight. The heavier someone is, the higher potential for punching power they will have. Accuracy and timing are assets which allows someone to apply power most effectively.

                    When two boxers are as evenly matched in skills as Rigondeaux and Lomachenko are. Timing and accuracy of both boxers are usually even / equal.

                    Also, we don't know how effective Rigo's power is going to be against 130 pound boxers. Boxers don't always carry their power to a higher weight division and remain equally effective. Example is Manny Pacquiao. In 140 pounds, he destroyed Ricky Hatton and knocked him out cold. Yet, he landed those same punches for 12 rounds on Antonio Margarito and wasn't able to even drop him. Weight improves punch resistance! A heavier boxer can often walk through the lighter boxer's punches. Especially if the weight difference is significant.



                    That's false! Weight is a factor when landing punches on the opponent and when absorbing opponent's punches. There's a reason why only weight divisions exist (along with gender divisions) and not timing divisions, accuracy divisions, speed divisions, reach divisions, height divisions and etc. This is because weight and gender are the most significant factors which determines the outcome of a boxing match.

                    Getting hit by a 250 pound boxer is going to feel totally different (will inflict greater damage) than getting punched by a 150 pound boxer. Likewise, getting hit by a punch if you were to weigh 250 pounds is going to have less effect than if you were to get hit by the same punch and if you were to weigh 150 pounds.



                    All of this is true if the lighter boxer moving up in weight has a SIGNIFICANT skill advantage over the heavier boxer. In the case of Pacquiao moving up and beating the much heavier Margarito due to a significant skill advantage. However, this become very different when the lighter boxer moving up has to box against the best of that weight division. This is the case between Rigondeaux and Lomachenko.

                    Rigondeaux was able to beat the bigger and heavier Nonito Donaire (due to a significant skill advantage). He isn't going to possess that advantage against Lomachenko since both are evenly matched in the skill department.
                    Raw punching power is not determined by weight between two guys who are close in size and in some cases further apart. Duran a lightweight had greater power than Leonard at welterweight, rocking Leonard on two occasions and Leonard being unable to hurt Duran in their first fight is just one example. That came down to equal skills but the fighter with the better game plan won. I can name a number of guys who hit harder than guys at higher weights so power is relative to the fighter, not their weight. There are many cases of fighters moving up in weight and not only not being hurt by the bigger guy but knocking out the bigger guy instead. Until otherwise proven, Rigo is noted as having the power advantage. He also beat guys who were much taller who clearly weighed more and did so because of his skills. And he also has the reach advantage over Lom which obviously counts in boxing. There is a reason people are calling this the best skills matchup in boxing because skills are what will determine the winner which even Rigo has pointed out. That is why everyone is talking strategy and how each guy can win. Two equally skilled fighters close in size will come down to who came in with the right game plan and who can adjust and even re-adjust if needed. It will come down to if Rigo can counter Lom coming in and lower Lom's workrate by making him miss and making him pay, and going to the body, or if Lom's workrate and angles will be too much for Rigo who is not used to a guy who uses so many angles. The best skilled fighter with the best game plan will win.
                    Last edited by richardt; 12-08-2017, 01:16 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by STAX ON DECK View Post
                      look guys i like lomachekekoko but he cant beat rigo as the styles doesnt mix well,,,,,

                      lomsachenko likes to throw punches in punches a bit like papquioa but wit a bit more finesee and skill,,,, but we seen what happen when he gets in there with a sharpshooter like floyd or marquez,,, he gets confused and tentititive,,,,,

                      well guess what???? loma hasnt been in with that caliber of fighter yet and hes stepping in with one of the best ever counter punchrs,,,,, he wont be able to just let his hands go and do all that posing sht rigo will punish him,,,,,

                      guys im telling you yall will be in for a shock if you think lomachekko got this,.,,,,,,
                      Nice making yourself look like an idiot, congrats!!!!

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