Gonna bump this thread after Rigo loses all rounds... Lol
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lomachenkoko cant beat rigo guys sorry
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Originally posted by STAX ON DECK View Postlook guys i like lomachekekoko but he cant beat rigo as the styles doesnt mix well,,,,,
lomsachenko likes to throw punches in punches a bit like papquioa but wit a bit more finesee and skill,,,, but we seen what happen when he gets in there with a sharpshooter like floyd or marquez,,, he gets confused and tentititive,,,,,
well guess what???? loma hasnt been in with that caliber of fighter yet and hes stepping in with one of the best ever counter punchrs,,,,, he wont be able to just let his hands go and do all that posing sht rigo will punish him,,,,,
guys im telling you yall will be in for a shock if you think lomachekko got this,.,,,,,,
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I think Rigo should be the underdog by virtue of weight difference, but it's not that bad like say Pacquiao vs those huge guys he fought because at the very least Rigo has always this long reach and with his skill he can always manipulate this to his advantage. Unlike, Pacquiao who is not only short in height, but has extremely short reach too--Pacquiao is what we call legit midget. He is not hiding on long reach or false weight, he eats like 2000-4000 calories more just to fight a proper welterweight. Rigo situation should not be that bad.
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Originally posted by richardt View PostWrong. Rigo uses timing and accuracy to score points and power is only the side product of his timing and accuracy. Weight is only a factor in a grueling fight when a fighter leans on and wears out the opponent. History is littered with countless examples of guys jumping weight divisions and winning. Thats how they become 3 and 4 division champs. A so-called smaller fighter can be faster as well and use that over a slower heavier fighter as history has shown. And Rigo has the reach advantage which is also part of the size equation as well as having fought guys who were much taller than Lom. This fight will come down to skills and they fighter who is more skilled or adjusts better to the other guy's game will win.
Rigo uses timing and accuracy to score points and power is only the side product of his timing and accuracy.
When two boxers are as evenly matched in skills as Rigondeaux and Lomachenko are. Timing and accuracy of both boxers are usually even / equal.
Also, we don't know how effective Rigo's power is going to be against 130 pound boxers. Boxers don't always carry their power to a higher weight division and remain equally effective. Example is Manny Pacquiao. In 140 pounds, he destroyed Ricky Hatton and knocked him out cold. Yet, he landed those same punches for 12 rounds on Antonio Margarito and wasn't able to even drop him. Weight improves punch resistance! A heavier boxer can often walk through the lighter boxer's punches. Especially if the weight difference is significant.
Weight is only a factor in a grueling fight when a fighter leans on and wears out the opponent.
Getting hit by a 250 pound boxer is going to feel totally different (will inflict greater damage) than getting punched by a 150 pound boxer. Likewise, getting hit by a punch if you were to weigh 250 pounds is going to have less effect than if you were to get hit by the same punch and if you were to weigh 150 pounds.
History is littered with countless examples of guys jumping weight divisions and winning. Thats how they become 3 and 4 division champs. A so-called smaller fighter can be faster as well and use that over a slower heavier fighter as history has shown.
Rigondeaux was able to beat the bigger and heavier Nonito Donaire (due to a significant skill advantage). He isn't going to possess that advantage against Lomachenko since both are evenly matched in the skill department.
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Originally posted by Ganstaz003 View PostRaw punching power is always determined by someone's weight. The heavier someone is, the higher potential for punching power they will have. Accuracy and timing are assets which allows someone to apply power most effectively.
When two boxers are as evenly matched in skills as Rigondeaux and Lomachenko are. Timing and accuracy of both boxers are usually even / equal.
Also, we don't know how effective Rigo's power is going to be against 130 pound boxers. Boxers don't always carry their power to a higher weight division and remain equally effective. Example is Manny Pacquiao. In 140 pounds, he destroyed Ricky Hatton and knocked him out cold. Yet, he landed those same punches for 12 rounds on Antonio Margarito and wasn't able to even drop him. Weight improves punch resistance! A heavier boxer can often walk through the lighter boxer's punches. Especially if the weight difference is significant.
That's false! Weight is a factor when landing punches on the opponent and when absorbing opponent's punches. There's a reason why only weight divisions exist (along with gender divisions) and not timing divisions, accuracy divisions, speed divisions, reach divisions, height divisions and etc. This is because weight and gender are the most significant factors which determines the outcome of a boxing match.
Getting hit by a 250 pound boxer is going to feel totally different (will inflict greater damage) than getting punched by a 150 pound boxer. Likewise, getting hit by a punch if you were to weigh 250 pounds is going to have less effect than if you were to get hit by the same punch and if you were to weigh 150 pounds.
All of this is true if the lighter boxer moving up in weight has a SIGNIFICANT skill advantage over the heavier boxer. In the case of Pacquiao moving up and beating the much heavier Margarito due to a significant skill advantage. However, this become very different when the lighter boxer moving up has to box against the best of that weight division. This is the case between Rigondeaux and Lomachenko.
Rigondeaux was able to beat the bigger and heavier Nonito Donaire (due to a significant skill advantage). He isn't going to possess that advantage against Lomachenko since both are evenly matched in the skill department.Last edited by richardt; 12-08-2017, 01:16 PM.
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Originally posted by STAX ON DECK View Postlook guys i like lomachekekoko but he cant beat rigo as the styles doesnt mix well,,,,,
lomsachenko likes to throw punches in punches a bit like papquioa but wit a bit more finesee and skill,,,, but we seen what happen when he gets in there with a sharpshooter like floyd or marquez,,, he gets confused and tentititive,,,,,
well guess what???? loma hasnt been in with that caliber of fighter yet and hes stepping in with one of the best ever counter punchrs,,,,, he wont be able to just let his hands go and do all that posing sht rigo will punish him,,,,,
guys im telling you yall will be in for a shock if you think lomachekko got this,.,,,,,,
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