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Old 01-10-2020, 05:13 AM #61
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I agree with some of what you say but folks have been saying boxing wonít last for decades now and here we are with two boxers canelo and Floyd ****tting on any athletes today.

Boxing will always have critics myself included but its not the oldest sport for no reason and it ainít going anywhere.
Well said. Wrestling, kicking, choking, rolling on the ground, has been around since probably the first fight in history. Itís not a revelation. Thereís a reason why it evolved into ďboxingĒ. Itís not like kicking a guy on the ground is even legal in the ufc. Thereís things fans like to see the most and things they donít. Iím sure thereís a lot of doormen and ex-doorman on this site, plus club/pub/bar goers. With a hundred people watching a fight on the street, we all know how everyone boos when one guy tries to tackle another guy, or even kicks. Standing toe to toe and trading punches is what society has desired the most so far. Ask ur gfs. Nothing pays better.
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Old 01-10-2020, 05:33 AM #62
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Money rules the world and as long as profits continue to grow things will stay the same. If things were that bad and money wasnít flowing...trust me things would change. We as fans arenít getting BG what we want but the handlers and business men are. It a what it is.
But sometimes you get fighters like Tyson Fury and even Anthony Joshua who want to fight the best that sidestep the money men.Hence Fury got the first Wilder fight on pretty quick because in his words he wanted it and "if 2 fighters want to fight they will". You have to give some credit to Wilder as well for that even if he did fight a Fury that wasnt 100%.Likewise with Joshua he's potentially given up one of his belts to fight the winner of Fury/Wilder which all fans truly want to see.

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The business side of any sport will always take precedence over the glory and legacy of an athlete or team. Boxing is no different. Promoters and managers want to leverage as much revenue out of a fighter as they can with the least amount of risk. This is why we see so many over-hyped opponents being marketed to the fans as legitimate threats or formidable opponents, .
But a true boxer will always want fame and glory and wants to fight the best and isnt afraid of loosing and is honourable in defeat. Badou Jack I think is just one type of boxer that characterises this . I hope we see more characters with this type of mindset as ultimately its the boxers that can force the agenda if they really want it (hence read my reply to another post above yours) not the business men .
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Old 01-10-2020, 08:07 AM #63
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Boxing is a Business that masquerades as a sport. Itís about Power / $ / Popularity

Most sports are played on a level playing field where rules set in place to determine a clear Winner & Loser ,Boxing is subjective , Results are often decided based on a Fighters Popularity or Who theyíre signed with , not what happens in the Ring.

Promoters / Advisers almost always determine a fighters plateau, From 126 - HW with Josh Taylor signing with TR the only straps Not in possession of ( PBC , Top Rank , Golden Boy , Matchroom , Warren ) Iím pretty sure are the Cruiser Weights.


Only in Boxing does Talent not play the biggest factor of a athletes Success. Avg Fighters who are popular and have the right team behind them ( Chavez Jr) can earn World Titles , Receive Unlimited Opportunities , Fight the Biggest Names all because of Popularity and $ they can generate not because of the Talent the possess.

On the flip side only in Boxing can a fighter who isnít popular or have a good team be seen as too talented ( Andrade / Rigo / Golovkin to name a few) and end up hurting their career and finding only limited success or having to wait until the twilight of their career to get a fraction of the opportunity Chavez receives , the Risk they present without the $ they can bring in . fighters can easily avoid and not fight them with little resistance from fans /media.Even if they get a strap Sanctioning Organizations can take it from them for the smallest infractions

Imagine if the NBA pulled these stunts and wouldnít let Milwaukee Bucks in the playoffs because theyíre small market and LA & LeBron might not win a championship if They faced the Bucks in the Final and more people will watch and more $ if itís the Celtics
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:08 AM #64
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How can a sport on life support like this even still exist?
More people in the US are watching boxing than at any other point in decades. TV networks in the US are paying more for boxing than at any other point in history. The sport is not on life support. It's thriving more than it has in a very very long time.
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:18 AM #65
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Yeah it is pretty much a joke.


I still watch but not as much as I used to.
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Old 01-10-2020, 10:06 AM #66
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Let's not leave out Silver. ''Peoples'' champ has more cred.
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Old 01-10-2020, 10:54 AM #67
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I accept boxing for what it is and enjoy it. It's the most corrupt of all sports by a longshot, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy the action in the ring.
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Old 01-10-2020, 11:37 AM #68
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Only in Boxing does Talent not play the biggest factor of a athletes Success. Avg Fighters who are popular and have the right team behind them ( Chavez Jr) can earn World Titles , Receive Unlimited Opportunities , Fight the Biggest Names all because of Popularity and $ they can generate not because of the Talent the possess.

On the flip side only in Boxing can a fighter who isnít popular or have a good team be seen as too talented ( Andrade / Rigo / Golovkin to name a few) and end up hurting their career and finding only limited success or having to wait until the twilight of their career to get a fraction of the opportunity Chavez receives , the Risk they present without the $ they can bring in . fighters can easily avoid and not fight them with little resistance from fans /media.Even if they get a strap Sanctioning Organizations can take it from them for the smallest infractions
Interesting post .Deep down though if a boxing promoter is in it for the money as opposed to the talent I dont think there representing the noble art of boxing and shouldn't be in the game.

I still feel fan power will ultimately win through though as there the lifeblood of the sport.I feel as well truth sometimes does prevail even in boxing and you get some genuine promoters eg Frank Warren.He has acknowledged in interviews if the fighters are ready he isnt afraid of pitting them early on in their careers eg if the opportunity presented itself he would pit Daniel Dubois against Anthony Joshua tomorrow. Likewise he doesn't want to see a third instalment of Fury/Wilder but wants to see the winner take on Anthony Joshua.

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Old 01-10-2020, 11:49 AM #69
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Imagine if the NBA pulled these stunts and wouldnít let Milwaukee Bucks in the playoffs because theyíre small market and LA & LeBron might not win a championship if They faced the Bucks in the Final and more people will watch and more $ if itís the Celtics
The NBA did this to the Portland Blazers and Sacramento Kings when blatantly denied them the NBA Finals so a big draw like the Lakers can play

Why do you think the Patriots made so many super bowls on the back of penalties and controversial calls like the tuck rule no one ever heard about before ever
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Yeah its terrible, no wonder youtube boxing is taking over
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