Originally posted by Sicario*
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Better win: Joshua's win vs Wladimir or Wilder's win over Ortiz?
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Just shows the hypocrisy of some of NSB clowns. In other threads they bash fighting a former champ, fighting a guy coming off a loss, fighting a guy coming off a long layoff, etc... and now the same people say that a win over a former champ coming off a long layoff and loss is a good win...
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I say Joshua's because Wilder didn't look great or dominant vs Ortiz but rather weathered the storm and I'll give Wlad the benefit of the doubt of not being sufficiently shot.Last edited by SAINTSTEVE; 03-08-2018, 12:41 PM.
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Both are similar but on their merits Joshua's win is 5 times better.
Reasons...
Joshua had half as many fights as Wilder
Klitschko vs Ortiz ranking...come on Klitschko was King for 10+ years and KO'ing everybody up until his last fight.
Ortiz - on merits hasn't really beaten any World Champ nor top 5 contender.
Physically Vlad looked really good..his loss to Fury was not a beating just out maneuvered by an awkward boxer. Vlad had more stamina than what AJ did in that fight. Ortiz vs Wilder did not display good stamina and visibly slowed down in output and actual speed.
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Wlad is a much better fighter than Ortiz prime against prime. AJ beat a 41 year old Wlad coming of a bad loss and a long layoff. Wilder beat a 38 year old undefeated Ortiz. I think both wins are of equal quality but there was no option to say the wins were even. I voted for Wilder's win being the slightly better win.
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Originally posted by HeadShots View PostHas Ortiz ever been manhandled like this before WIlder? Yes that was a journeyman.
there was also Puritty and Brewster btw.
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