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  • #21
    Originally posted by Ylem View Post
    a ****ty movie at that "Death Warrior" its even got a ****ty name, besides that i dont even think hes in the movie for more then 20 mins.......

    No, He is playing B.A. Baracas in the A-Team movie...

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Ylem View Post
      a ****ty movie at that "Death Warrior" its even got a ****ty name, besides that i dont even think hes in the movie for more then 20 mins.......
      and an A-Team remake.

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      • #23
        UFC is on decline.... it has come to the point that actually I'm more interested in the Cung Le return @ Strikeforce than UFC

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        • #24
          Originally posted by GroundSt.Pound View Post
          Not really. It's not going to die, nor is boxing. The UFC brass is just needs to realize that quantity doesn't equal quality.


          Also because of injuries piling up at such a fast rate, things "seem" really ****tier than they really are.

          Brock is out with a hole in his intestine
          Carwin is out or was out with a broken nose
          Nogueria has staph
          GSP was out for a while with the groin injury
          Anderson Silva is out with Elbow Surgery
          Machida is out with hand surgery
          Condit just pulled out with an injury
          Swick was out with a neck injury
          Sherk is out with a shoulder injury
          Wanderlei has been out with facial reconstructive surgery
          Rampage is making a movie...

          So there really isn't really too much reason to say the UFC or MMA is declining. I mean that's 4 out of 5 champions that are gone and a few contenders.
          good points about the injuries

          but in all fairness the original response you replied to, never said the UFC was going to die

          just in a slight decline

          nobody's saying that the events are repeatedly doing terrible sales or anything like that

          and maybe it's made to look worse by all those injuries

          but still it looks like the UFC is trying to make up for lost time with all the injuries to the big names by cramming in as many events as possible

          I won't say the UFC is anywhere close to dead, but these past few months they have been losing some momentum, with fight cards not living up to expectations

          hopefully tomorrow 107 can pull through

          especially with

          Penn-Sanchez
          Florian-Guida AND
          Mir-Kongo

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          • #25
            Injuries are definitely playing a part.

            UFC 106 was supposed to be a great card but Karo decided to be an idiot and Brock and Carwin got scrapped and we ended up with a ****ty main event.

            UFC 108 literally has to be one of the worst NYE cards in while. I mean Evans vs. Silva as the main event for the NYE card? That's pretty lame. Had GSP or Anderson not been injured he'd probably be headlining this card

            Tyson Griffin had to pull out with an injury on UFC 108 as did Gonzaga with Staph.

            Things are just really bad right now with all these injuries and as a result we are getting rather bad cards.

            Hopefully soon everything will smooth over.
            Last edited by TheNegation; 12-11-2009, 02:10 PM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by prinzmanspoper View Post
              Unfortunately MMA fans tend to be bitter and rather defensive when anyone but their own comment on their sport.

              I do believe that MMA is a dying sport and it's peak already three years old.Many within the MMA community were so loud and confident in the rise of their sport and the decline of boxing,but within the last year there has been great shift.While boxing has limited it's ppv outlets,the UFC has continued theirs with an increased number of events been added through the year.


              The future is bright for the sport of boxing and the future of MMA certainly looks bleak with the supposed best fighter in the world ducking top competition,a freak show internet star who was met with nothing but criticism from the man who now happily promotes him,and now two washed up stars who are no longer relevant in the sport receiving more exposure than they deserve being the feature attraction of a show which is supposed to showcase the fighters competing for a contract.


              This really is a a bite on the backside for the fans of MMA.

              I must of not have got the memo that you can't be a fan of both boxing and MMA. MMA as a sport is not dying. The UFC is a brand, not the whole sport. MMA survived years without PPV or Television and has only recently became a main attraction. As for boxing. It is getting better but the fact remains only 2 names in boxing put up any kind of numbers right now, Mayweather and Pacquiao...

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              • #27
                Originally posted by GroundSt.Pound View Post
                Injuries are definitely playing a part.

                Tyson Griffin had to pull out with an injury on UFC 108 as did Gonzaga with Staph.

                Hopefully soon everything will smooth over.
                injures are the biggest thing hurting the UFC right now

                **when did Tyson Griffin pull out? if so, that's a bummer would have liked to see him fight Miller

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                • #28
                  i also thought the artical made a lot of good points and as the majority of people are saying 8 9 ppvs is going to be plenty, abolutly right it will make you look foward to some real good fights not just another junk card... All i know is that i hope tomorrow nights card better be ready for heavy criticism if it doesnt fullfill but on that note
                  BJ submission
                  KONGO KO
                  Florian vs Guida is just gonna be a good fight

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                  • #29
                    I miss Pride...

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                    • #30
                      There is no douting that UFC is going through a grim period as of late(Like virtually sports do at one point or another). And some of the fights aren't up to the standard of what they should be.

                      But 85% of this is down to sheer bad luck which cant be helped and the other 15% is some stupid ideas by the company.

                      There has never been a worst time for fighters pulling out or fighters being on the sidelines, but it can happen when you're training at such a world class level. Add onto the fact that some fighters have left due to contract disputes or what not and you have a very grim situation.

                      If everything would be going to plan for the UFC and all the fights that were supposed to be made happening would be, it would be booming now.

                      Here's a list of fighters currently injured or have just recently comeback or in the middle of recovery.

                      -Anderson Silva
                      -Georges St Pierre
                      -Brock Lesnar
                      -Shane Carwin
                      -Thiago Alves
                      -Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
                      -Mark Coleman
                      -Ricardo Almedia
                      -Patrick Cote
                      -Carlos Condit
                      -Tyson Griffin
                      -Gabriel Gonzaga
                      -Lyoto Machida
                      -Tim Credeur
                      -Kim Dong-Hyun
                      -Kurt Pellagrino
                      -Matt Hammil
                      -Todd Duffee
                      -Jeremy Stephens

                      I mean come on. Thats list is stacked and there a few more. When so many top fighters are out, and so many great fights are being pulled or scrapped, then fights are being made at short notice without much promotion or hype, how can the UFC not be grim?

                      Add on to this that Dan Henderson has just left, who was on a 3 fight winning streak and was coming of spectacular KO victory at UFC 100.

                      Then Quiton Jackson pulls out of his highly anticapted grudge match with Rashad Evans, when both are coaching on the Ultimate Fighter, and the rivarly is getting hotter every week.

                      And then fans are told the fight is off, due to Rampage wanting to be a actor. But yet we carry on to watch the pre tapped Ultimate Fighter, even when we know both arent facing off in Dec at UFC 107

                      That was a huge dissapointment for the fans and the UFC. Then UFC fail to sign the best MMA fighter of all time in Fedor Emelianenko. When a deal cannot be agreed.

                      Fans miss out on seeing possibly the biggest MMA fight of all time in Lesnar vs Fedor. Another huge blow.

                      Argubaly UFC's Biggest draw UFC Heayweight Champion Brock Lesnar is then put out with a serious illness, which is career threating and looks like he could be out for over a year. Superfight with Shane Carwin is then scrapped.

                      Here's a list of fights over the last few months that were due to take place, but never happened due to pull outs for one reason or another, and were eventually scrapped or postponed to a later date. This is just insane, have a look.....

                      -Brock Lesnar vs Shane Carwin
                      -Rashad Evans vs Rampage Jackson
                      -Vitor Belfort vs Anderson Silva
                      -Tito Ortiz vs Mark Coleman
                      -Thiago Alves vs Jon Fitch II
                      -Jon Fitch vs Ricardo Almeida
                      -Thiago Alves vs Paul Thiago
                      -Mike Swick vs Martin Kampmann
                      -Frankie Edgar vs Kurt Pelligrino
                      -Junior Dos Santos vs Gabriel Gonzaga
                      -Karo Parisyan vs Dustin Hazelett
                      -Paul Daley vs Carlos Condit
                      -Jim Miller vs Tyson Griffin
                      -Dan Hardy vs Kim Dong-Hyun
                      -Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Cain Velasquez
                      -Chase Gormley vs Ben Rothwell
                      -Sean Sherk vs Gleison Tibau

                      And there's more. Can you imagine if 95% of these fights would of went ahead when they should of, or if they did? UFC would be booming as much as ever. But when it rains it pours, and no saying is better for whats happening to UFC at the moment.

                      And to add on to the woes, we also have the recent lot of debatable decisions of Rua vs Machida and Vera vs Couture. In which most think the loser was robbed blind. Which is another blow for the company.....That the judging is being questioned constanly.

                      All this has added up, thus why were having the so called grim period we have today. But things will pick up eventually........

                      For now do we will just have to deal with it......
                      Last edited by JFM_26; 12-12-2009, 04:46 PM.

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