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  • #91
    GGG is the living ROBOT (Bicentennial Man)

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
      not imo. people were saying that lucas was gonna crush danny yes. but lucas isn't on level with GGG in terms of skills. plus in that fight danny had some advantages over him, size and reach, he was the naturally bigger man. here canelo doesn't seem to have any over golovkin. GGG is a natural MW
      Canelo IS a natural MW too, just one that is able to drain down to 155 lbs. He won't be able to keep that up for much long, he might be struggling to make 155 now, he looked pretty drained at weigh in against Khan. Maybe that's why he's now saying he'll face GGG at 160.




      Originally posted by Nomadic View Post
      This fight is not happening unless it's a Canelo catch weight.
      He's saying 160 now, we'll see.





      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      Absolutely !

      The fighters see things differently, and the trainers/managers can see how Golovkin is being matched.

      If Team Canelo approach that fight with the right mindset they will be fine.

      Not sure that Team Golovkin want to leave it up to the judges either.

      I slightly favor Golovkin, but a Canelo UD would not surprise me at all.
      If it goes the distance, we already know DLH has the judges on his payroll.







      Originally posted by whirlout View Post
      Sure, we all hope it will be a classic. But the eye test tells you it's going to be a classic coming out party for GGG. We can sit up here and question GGG's competition all we want, GGG takes on all comers around his weight class and he does what he's suppose to do, impressively I might add. Hell, I think Canelo struggles with Lemieux and GGG whitewashed and beat down Lemieux. I know, I know styles make fight, but you can't ignore the attributes either.

      Canelo commits the cardinal sin that you don't want to commit against GGG. Canelo's head stays in the same position, he's flat footed, he rarely throws combination, he wings his punches / lunges at times and he has a tendency to get tired. All recipe for disaster against GGG. GGG's longer jab will find his head early and often, his body attack (the best in the business) will rattles his ribs often, Canelo not too shabby in that department but the eye test tells you GGG punches does more damage, he's probably the best in the biz in putting his punches together and he will probably be the well conditioned of the two. Those are all telling stats.

      Canelo is a live dog and I will respect him a great deal if he takes this fight and while no means will it be a whitewash, Canelo will certainly bring the fight but it can't be sustained and he will have no chance to take a breather against GGG. GGG's effective aggression and his heavy artillery in my opinion will eventually break Canelo down for a knockout or TKO.
      +1 neither fighter is a slouch, they will go to war.




      Originally posted by THC View Post
      Canelo's defense is underrated. He has decent head movement when he's inside but he won't be able to do his waist-bending bob and weave because GGG will forego the head and stick that lead hook into the side of the ribs all day.

      I want to see how Canelo grits his teeth against a guy who presses forward and hurts him consistently. He won't have a size advantage this time. GGG also hits just as hard. Canelo may be faster but his lack of mobility compared to GGG will be a disadvantage. GGG will turn Canelo constantly and prevent him from setting his feet to launch power punches. Most def he'll make Canelo pay for using wide looping hooks.

      I see GGG showcasing his fundamentals to control the pace (like he did against Lemieux) . With one eye swollen badly, Canelo will fade during the championship rounds. GGG has the better engine. He'll break Canelo down and force him to the canvas with a body shot.

      It'll be an epic battle. They really need to make it happen.

      Canelo's defense has been getting better and better, but he is kinda flat footed, and he definitely lacks in cutting off the ring as we saw how he struggled with Khan. Golovkin is a master at cutting off the ring.






      Originally posted by SteveM View Post
      Looks like he got two judges now in Vegas.

      Location of fight is as important as weight. How in the hell did 2 judges have Canelo up after 5 rounds on Saturday?

      Texas is more corrupt than Vegas. Stay away from both places. LA or MSG.
      Yeah, GBP has at least one judge on the payroll as we've seen in the past, even in this recent fight. I would prefer LA over MSG, but we all know this fight is gonna go down in Vegas. It's just too big of a fight to have it anywhere else.




      Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post
      Canelo vs GGG is potentially a fight of the decade candidate. If people wanted GGG to go up to 168 & fight Ward, the fight between himself and Canelo would HAVE to be held @ 160.
      This. To both parts. Canelo vs GGG will be bigger than Canelo vs Cotto I think, and it will def go down as fight of the decade, easily over Mayweather-Pacquiao.





      Originally posted by SteveM View Post
      I'm high on Triple G but I think you have gone OTT here. if Canelo is so heavy footed how come he eventually caught up with Lara and Khan? He is not fleet footed but he isn't flat footed either. Golovkin has a potent jab but it is not the quickest. At range Canelo should be able to block off many of the jabs or duck them. Golovkin does put his punches together well but he'll be aware that Canelo has quicker hands and brilliant timing. Lets face it, Canelo had just a split second to land on Khan when he KO'd him but that was all he needed to throw and land with devastating accuracy. That shows me that Canelo's mental processing is super fast. Golovkin is wide open to the counter so I think he'll fight as you say as he did against Lemieux and Canelo will come forward but in a more hesitant manner than normal. I have Golovkin as a 60/40 favorite so for me Canelo is VERY much a live dog.
      After Canelo kept trying to decapitate Khan without much success the first 3 rounds, he switched it up, and went for the setup instead. It wasn't that Canelo needed a split second because he's that fast, he was deliberately setting Khan for the KO. Canelo faked with the left, made Khan drop his hands, and that was all Canelo needed. He even said so himself in the post fight interview.





      Originally posted by whirlout View Post
      Canelo was actually almost knocked out by Abner Cotto (Cotto's elder brother) on the Floyd-Mosley card. Kirkland buzzed him a little but credit to him he has been rock solid since but GGG seem to have a granite chin and hasn't even been close to being rattled or knocked down. Probably doesn't mean much at this point, just pointing it out.
      I remember that fight, I think it was the first fight I watched of Canelo, been following him since then. He was almost KO'd, Cotto came very close, but Canelo gathered himself for the win. Oh, and his name is Jose Cotto, not Abner. You confusing him with Abner Mares?





      Originally posted by SteveM View Post
      You have Golovkin as a power-punching Lara. He isn't. I like GGG but Canelo is a step up from all his opponents in turns of boxing IQ and experience. Likewise Golovkin is a step-up for Canelo in terms of size and power but not boxing IQ nor speed.
      I beg to differ. Golovkin may not have speed, but he does have boxing IQ. you don't fight 300+ amateur fights and 30+ pro fights and not build up your boxing IQ.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View Post
        We can talk about resumes or fight night weights or whatever but when the rubber meets the road none of that matters. Canelo got whitewashed in the biggest test of his career, Golovkin has destroyed everyone he has faced. We can say he has faced no one and there is some validity in that he has never faced anyone like Canelo and Canelo has never fought a mw and certainly has never faced anyone like Golovkin. This is a fight with alot of unknowns, can Canelo handle the pressure of a man the same size as him with the technical skill let alone the power of Golovkin and is Golovkin for real <--- now thats the question isnt it. If he is, well its a bad night for Canelo. If he isnt the red head stamps his spot in history.

        This! Golovkin may not have faced elite fighters yet because they don't want to get in the ring with him, but he has destroyed those that have been brave enough to climb the ring with him. Did he fight bums, or is he that good?

        Canelo may have faced elite fighters already, but without a doubt, they have been smaller than him. His defeat came at the hands of Mayweather, a smaller fighter, but the best defensive fighter out there.

        Miguel Cotto is another elite fighter, but also much smaller, and he had no business being in the middleweight division. Great future hall of famer, but I don't give him full credit for defeating an old and crippled Martinez.

        Lara, who was of comparable size to Canelo, questionably lost, but gave Canelo lots of problems.

        Almost every other fighter Canelo has faced was out of their prime and on their way out, not an elite fighter, or clearly a much smaller fighter. Mosley was on his way out. Josesito Lopez, clearly a mismatch.




        Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View Post
        It was suppose to be a witty conclusion, I fail again as a writer.
        His humor detector must be busted





        Originally posted by QuadrupleG View Post
        The only fighters on Canelo's resume who are better than Golovkin's opposition are Floyd and Lara, and he lost to both.
        I'd add Cotto too, although he lost to Canelo. No surprise there, a much smaller fighter.





        Originally posted by oscar9992 View Post
        Seems like people forgot how good amateur GGG was

        Damn, even at the amateur level, Golovkin was already using the art of shifting!







        Whatever the results of GGG vs Canelo, it will definitely tell us a lot of where these two fighters stand in the division and cement one fighter as the true MW king. I favor Golovkin and think it will be by stoppage. By no means is Canelo a pushover though.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by T.M.T View Post
          that's to much talk and explaining. this coward is never fight lil G.
          u guys sure seem to want that its obvious they are going to fight

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          • #95
            Originally posted by robbyheartbaby View Post
            Canleo will fight him I can feel it, I saw fire in his eyes. I'm a huge GGG fan but you have to respect Canelo. TBH he could beat GGG let's see it!
            i dont understand why fools every thought he was scared in the first place. it was oscar not canelo

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            • #96
              Fight could turn out like Garcia vs Mattysse. I have a understanding of what Canelo is capable of because he has been tested. Golovkin is somewhat speculative.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Cinci Champ View Post
                i dont understand why fools every thought he was scared in the first place. it was oscar not canelo
                Cause Canelo was saying 155, then Ggg hasnt earned it etc. Let's see if he overrides Oscar this time

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by FeFist View Post
                  Fight could turn out like Garcia vs Mattysse. I have a understanding of what Canelo is capable of because he has been tested. Golovkin is somewhat speculative.
                  You should have had a pretty good idea about Lucas too, he'd faced better comp than Garcia at the time

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View Post
                    GGG has face a few fighters who'd give Canelo fits, even Monroe would. Canelo isn't used to fighting guys his size. Geale had a good fight against Sergio. He did get beat by Cotto, by he was drained, and went to SMW after that.

                    Lemieux would be very dangerous for Canelo. Canelo probably wins, but...

                    GGG won't have that much trouble breaking Canelo down. Canelo's only hope is to make it 12 and hope he gets two judges.

                    He automatically gets one judge, so that's a real possibility.
                    Hey, Geale didn't fight Sergio. It's probably Macklin you talk about.

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                    • Originally posted by SleepyBear View Post
                      This! Golovkin may not have faced elite fighters yet because they don't want to get in the ring with him, but he has destroyed those that have been brave enough to climb the ring with him. Did he fight bums, or is he that good?

                      Canelo may have faced elite fighters already, but without a doubt, they have been smaller than him. His defeat came at the hands of Mayweather, a smaller fighter, but the best defensive fighter out there.

                      Miguel Cotto is another elite fighter, but also much smaller, and he had no business being in the middleweight division. Great future hall of famer, but I don't give him full credit for defeating an old and crippled Martinez.

                      Lara, who was of comparable size to Canelo, questionably lost, but gave Canelo lots of problems.

                      Almost every other fighter Canelo has faced was out of their prime and on their way out, not an elite fighter, or clearly a much smaller fighter. Mosley was on his way out. Josesito Lopez, clearly a mismatch.






                      His humor detector must be busted







                      I'd add Cotto too, although he lost to Canelo. No surprise there, a much smaller fighter.








                      Damn, even at the amateur level, Golovkin was already using the art of shifting!







                      Whatever the results of GGG vs Canelo, it will definitely tell us a lot of where these two fighters stand in the division and cement one fighter as the true MW king. I favor Golovkin and think it will be by stoppage. By no means is Canelo a pushover though.
                      We need more posters with common sense ike you here to balance out all the negative haters and troll posters. Keep posting.

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