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  • #81
    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    The fighters and trainers overwhelmingly said Canelo won also the judges who are trained to score fights (1 of the judges is the only judge who scored the first fight for GGG and even he scored the second fight a win for Canelo) But what these boxers and trainers know LMAO

    Mike Tyson
    George Foreman
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Miguel Cotto
    Robert Garcia
    Jorge Arce
    Willie Monroe
    Caleb Traux
    Austin Trout
    Cornelius K9 Bundridge
    Andre Ward
    Amir Khan
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Mikey Garcia
    Andy Lee
    Martin Murray
    Errol Spence
    Sergio Mora
    Bernard Hopkins
    Jorge Linares
    Peter Quillin
    Tony Bellew
    David Haye
    Floyd Mayweather SR
    Erik Morales
    David Lemieux
    Julin Williams
    Peter Smith
    Liam Smith
    Jermell Charlo
    Jermall Charlo
    Claressa Shields
    Caleb Plant
    Jason Quigley
    Anthony Fowler
    Dave Coldwell
    Badou Jack
    Jaime Munguia
    Andy Lee
    Jeff Mayweather
    Dewey Cooper
    Luis Tapia
    Ladarious Miller
    Kevin Newmen
    Rolando Romero
    Fernando Vargas
    Adam Booth
    Josh Kelly
    Jorge Travieso Arce
    Humberto Chiquita González
    Shakur Stevenson
    Devin Haney
    Gavin Rees
    John Molina
    Brandon Krause
    Curtis Stevens
    Ashley Theophane
    Abner Mares
    Michael Conlan
    Roberto Duran

    But GGG was robbed LMAO
    George Foreman owning GGG fans


    Wow.. Great post

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    • #82
      Originally posted by icha View Post
      please tell us which one of the 3 judges did that in the rematch ??
      did abel sanchez did the same? cuz he also had the fight a draw like 2 of the 3 judges did..
      by the way the one judge that had ggg winning the first one also had canelo winning the second one... the robbery cry and denial is really getting pathetic on some fanboys...
      The rematch wasn’t as blatant in favour of Canelo like in the first fight. It would have been bad for the sport if there was another 10-2 scorecard for Canelo without earning it or like the Judge who scored it a draw in the first fight who gave Canelo the 7th. The optics would look bad but him getting the W in a fight most felt was a draw at best or a Canelo loss just is further evidence of the favoutism Canelo receives even if the fight was scored closely, suprise suprise it still ended in Canelos favour

      Whether you feel it was a robbery or not I think along with most fans / media that Golovkin won both fights. But as I said for some odd reason the judges always tend to side with Canelo and the pattern is 1 gives him the rounds just for showing up and a second 1 will give him every benefit to get the rounds needed for a win which almost guarantees him a W.

      I’m talking how in every fight if it goes to the scorecards with a outcome that isn’t dominated by Canelo, he almost always has at least 1 super wide scorecard in his favour almost without fail that doesn’t represent what happend in the actual fight

      Whether it’s the 6 rounds Canelo got against Mayweather , The 9 rounds he got against Lara , The 10 rounds he got against Golovkin in the first fight or the dishonest scorecards Canelo received against Trout / Cotto.

      Without fail Canelo has never been on the receiving end of 1 bad scorecard in his entire career which is f.ucking mind boggling literally he’s the only boxer I can think of who hasn’t had a bad scorecard so far in his entire career. Doesn’t that seem odd

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      • #83
        Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
        The rematch wasn’t as blatant in favour of Canelo like in the first fight. It would have been bad for the sport if there was another 10-2 scorecard for Canelo without earning it or like the Judge who scored it a draw in the first fight who gave Canelo the 7th. The optics would look bad but him getting the W in a fight most felt was a draw at best or a Canelo loss just is further evidence of the favoutism Canelo receives even if the fight was scored closely, suprise suprise it still ended in Canelos favour

        Whether you feel it was a robbery or not I think along with most fans / media that Golovkin won both fights. But as I said for some odd reason the judges always tend to side with Canelo and the pattern is 1 gives him the rounds just for showing up and a second 1 will give him every benefit to get the rounds needed for a win which almost guarantees him a W.

        I’m talking how in every fight if it goes to the scorecards with a outcome that isn’t dominated by Canelo, he almost always has at least 1 super wide scorecard in his favour almost without fail that doesn’t represent what happend in the actual fight

        Whether it’s the 6 rounds Canelo got against Mayweather , The 9 rounds he got against Lara , The 10 rounds he got against Golovkin in the first fight or the dishonest scorecards Canelo received against Trout / Cotto.

        Without fail Canelo has never been on the receiving end of 1 bad scorecard in his entire career which is f.ucking mind boggling literally he’s the only boxer I can think of who hasn’t had a bad scorecard so far in his entire career. Doesn’t that seem odd
        As I said to Icha. When we talk Canelo vs GGG nobody ever brings up swing rounds. It was chess match style. GGG gets the favoritism because his mgmt cried wolf for a style they were going to sell, and when GGG performed the way he did, he got a pass. Canelo, didn’t get a pass even though he made GGG miss far too many times. Fanboys assume that dodging combination sequential shots at the ropes is easy is rather sad... easy from Golovkin, the marketed “Mexican Style” beast yet didn’t land as was sold in both outings. Canelo just showing the sweet science for what more he has in his toolkit.

        “Are You Not Entertained?!” -Maximus

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        • #84
          Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
          The rematch wasn’t as blatant in favour of Canelo like in the first fight. It would have been bad for the sport if there was another 10-2 scorecard for Canelo without earning it or like the Judge who scored it a draw in the first fight who gave Canelo the 7th. The optics would look bad but him getting the W in a fight most felt was a draw at best or a Canelo loss just is further evidence of the favoutism Canelo receives even if the fight was scored closely, suprise suprise it still ended in Canelos favour

          Whether you feel it was a robbery or not I think along with most fans / media that Golovkin won both fights. But as I said for some odd reason the judges always tend to side with Canelo and the pattern is 1 gives him the rounds just for showing up and a second 1 will give him every benefit to get the rounds needed for a win which almost guarantees him a W.

          I’m talking how in every fight if it goes to the scorecards with a outcome that isn’t dominated by Canelo, he almost always has at least 1 super wide scorecard in his favour almost without fail that doesn’t represent what happend in the actual fight

          Whether it’s the 6 rounds Canelo got against Mayweather , The 9 rounds he got against Lara , The 10 rounds he got against Golovkin in the first fight or the dishonest scorecards Canelo received against Trout / Cotto.

          Without fail Canelo has never been on the receiving end of 1 bad scorecard in his entire career which is f.ucking mind boggling literally he’s the only boxer I can think of who hasn’t had a bad scorecard so far in his entire career. Doesn’t that seem odd
          Follow the money. It's really that simple.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by R_Walken View Post

            Without fail Canelo has never been on the receiving end of 1 bad scorecard in his entire career which is f.ucking mind boggling literally he’s the only boxer I can think of who hasn’t had a bad scorecard so far in his entire career. Doesn’t that seem odd
            Canelo has had 5 split decisions his entire career and a majority decision loss... those things are plural and greater than 1 if we are talking Boxing and the scoring of the point system...a better perspective is to show how many WIDE cards he has had for his UD wins, all of them

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            • #86
              Originally posted by icha View Post
              you might want to read my post again, abel straight said the fight was a draw, i never said he had canelo winning, again when your own trainer doesnt think you won and all 3 judges had a combined difference of only one point there is really no room to cry about the outcome, just take the L like a man and move on, abel sanchez already did, ggg fans need to do it too...
              by the way i scored the fight a draw as well, wouldnt have had a problem with ggg getting the w either ...
              Nobody is 'crying'. The reason we're on these forums, at least supposedly, is that we want to know what the hell we're talking about. Leave the "take the L like a man" to boxrec warriors who have no clue what they're talking about. Just because 3 white old white dudes decided something does not mean it's god's truth. We as fans have the ability to think for ourselves, and have enough technology at our fingertips to make up our own mind.

              To me, this fight goes into similar annals as Hagler-Leonard. Just as good if not better, with razor close decision, where the champion had all the right to be indignant at the scoring. The difference here is that Golovkin has more of an argument for having won the fight - he boxed better, landed significantly more shots, landed harder shots, and had his opponent in trouble. Not even to mention, that he obviously got screwed in the 1st fight, where one of the judges basically lost her license for a year.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by icha View Post
                you thought, thats one thing, he actually lost, you wouldnt lie if you acknowledge that... he lost the fight no matter what you thought...
                He lost the fight on the score cards but he won it in the ring. Does that clear things up for you??

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                  The overwhelming majority of fighters, trainers thought canelo won including the judges.

                  Even able Sanchez didn't think GGG won LMAO

                  But nobody with 2 eyes thinks canelo won? Let's see...

                  Fighters/trainers who thought GGG lost to Canelo
                  Mike Tyson
                  George Foreman
                  Julio Cesar Chavez
                  Miguel Cotto
                  Robert Garcia
                  Jorge Arce
                  Willie Monroe
                  Caleb Traux
                  Austin Trout
                  Cornelius K9 Bundridge
                  Andre Ward
                  Amir Khan
                  Marco Antonio Barrera
                  Mikey Garcia
                  Andy Lee
                  Martin Murray
                  Errol Spence
                  Sergio Mora
                  Bernard Hopkins
                  Jorge Linares
                  Peter Quillin
                  Tony Bellew
                  David Haye
                  Floyd Mayweather SR
                  Erik Morales
                  David Lemieux
                  Julin Williams
                  Peter Smith
                  Liam Smith
                  Jermell Charlo
                  Jermall Charlo
                  Claressa Shields
                  Caleb Plant
                  Jason Quigley
                  Anthony Fowler
                  Dave Coldwell
                  Badou Jack
                  Jaime Munguia
                  Andy Lee
                  Jeff Mayweather
                  Dewey Cooper
                  Luis Tapia
                  Ladarious Miller
                  Kevin Newmen
                  Rolando Romero
                  Fernando Vargas
                  Adam Booth
                  Josh Kelly
                  Jorge Travieso Arce
                  Humberto Chiquita González
                  Shakur Stevenson
                  Devin Haney
                  Gavin Rees
                  John Molina
                  Brandon Krause
                  Curtis Stevens
                  Ashley Theophane
                  Abner Mares
                  Michael Conlan
                  Roberto Duran

                  But GGG was robbed LMAO
                  George Foreman owning GGG fans

                  So tell me, in the 1st fight the list of fighters was way longer than that and they had GGG winning along with the press row but you still said otherwise, but NOW YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FIGHTERS WHERE YOU DIDNT AGREE AFTER THE 1st fight, so explain your change of heart

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                  • #89
                    Mookie Alexander
                    BloodyElbow.com 117-111 Golovkin
                    CBS Sports 117-111 Golovkin
                    Patrick Stumberg
                    MMAMania.com
                    116-112 Golovkin
                    Kevin McRae BleacherReport.com 116-112 Golovkin
                    Shaun Al-Shatti
                    MMAFighting.com 116-112 Golovkin
                    Ryan Frederick
                    WrestlingObserver.com 116-112 Golovkin
                    Harold Lederman
                    HBO 116-112 Golovkin
                    Dan Rafael
                    ESPN.com 116-112 Golovkin
                    Sherdog.com 116-112 Golovkin
                    Phil Murphy
                    ESPN 115-113 Golovkin
                    Paul Fontaine
                    WrestlingObserver.com 115-113 Golovkin
                    Kevin Iole
                    Yahoo.com 115-113 Golovkin
                    Wil Esco
                    BadLeftHook.com 115-113 Golovkin
                    Patrick Wyman
                    BleacherReport.com 115-113 Golovkin
                    Rob Tatum
                    CombatPress.com 115-113 Golovkin
                    Seán Sheehan
                    SevereMMA.com 115-113 Golovkin
                    MMABrasil.com.br 115-113 Golovkin
                    Chris Mannix
                    Yahoo! Sports 114-114 DRAW
                    Associated Press 114-114 DRAW
                    Lance Pugmire
                    L.A. Times 114-114 DRAW


                    Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> 118-110 GGG
                    Unnamed boxing site #1 ------------------> 118-110 GGG
                    Jeff Powell (UK Daily Mail) ----------------> 118-111 GGG
                    Kelly Pavlik ---------------------------------> 117-111 GGG
                    Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
                    Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
                    Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
                    Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Devon Alexander --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Al Bernstein -------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 GGG
                    Steve Bunce (BoxNation) ----------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Tom Loeffler ------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Sergio Martinez ---------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Amir Khan ---------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Matthew Macklin --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Steve Lillis (BoxNation) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Lyle Fitzsimmons (CBS) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
                    Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
                    Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
                    Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
                    Michael Woods (Ring) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Nigel Collins (ESPN) ----------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Cliff Rold ----------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Bad Left Hook Writer #2 -----------------> 116-112 GGG
                    John A. MacDonald (Boxing Monthly) ---> 116-112 GGG
                    Ron Lewis (The Times) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
                    Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
                    Josh Taylor --------------------------------> 116-113 GGG
                    Joshua Bautsi -----------------------------> 116-113 GGG
                    Matt Christie (Boxing News) -------------> 116-113 GGG
                    Barry Jones (BoxNation) -----------------> 116-113 GGG
                    Adam Booth -------------------------------> 116-114 GGG
                    Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
                    Caleb Truax -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Gary Locket -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
                    MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
                    Joel Diaz ------------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Marc Livitz (SecondsOut) ------------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) -------> 115-113 GGG
                    Ed Robinson (Sky Sports) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Unnamed boxing site #2 ------------------> 115-113 GGG
                    Tom Gray (Ring) ---------------------------> 115-114 GGG
                    Max Kellerman -----------------------------> Golovkin
                    Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Shane Mosley ------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Austin Trout --------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Paulie Malignaggi --------------------------> Golovkin
                    Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
                    Scott Cardle --------------------------------> Golvokin
                    Terence Crawford ---------------------------> Golovkin
                    Reece Bellotti ------------------------------> Golvokin
                    Liam Smith ---------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Peter Quillin --------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Liam Williams ------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Ohara Davies -------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Luke Campbell -----------------------------> Golovkin
                    Dave Coldwell ------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Badou Jack ---------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Kevin Kelly (boxer) -------------------------> Golovkin
                    Steve Kim -----------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Doug Fischer --------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Ring TV guy (name?) ----------------------> Golvokin
                    Cornelius Bundrage ------------------------> Golovkin
                    Gabriel Rosado ------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Kal Yafai -------------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Julian Williams ------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Vanes Martirosyan --------------------------> Golovkin
                    Michael Montero ----------------------------> Golovkin
                    James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
                    Joe Rogan (UFC) ----------------------------> Golovkin
                    Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) ------------> Golovkin
                    Kovalev -------------------------------------> Golvokin
                    Chavez Jr -----------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Danny Jacobs -------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Murat Gassiev ------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Johnny Nelson ------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Rosie Perez ---------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Lou DiBella ---------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Tony Jeffries --------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Martin Samuel (UK Daily Mail) -------------> Golovkin
                    Dave Allen ----------------------------------> Golovkin
                    Joseph Parker ------------------------------> Golovkin
                    So it would be very hypocritical of you to use fighters as your reason don't you think

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View Post
                      Canelo has had 5 split decisions his entire career and a majority decision loss... those things are plural and greater than 1 if we are talking Boxing and the scoring of the point system...a better perspective is to show how many WIDE cards he has had for his UD wins, all of them
                      Stop it

                      He got a MD L against Mayweather a fight in which most people believe he got damn near shutout but miraculously 1 judge gave him a draw while the other 2 gave him 4 and 3 rounds

                      He got a split decision W against Lara and Golovkin both fights most people are in agreement he lost both of them but somehow was awarded 9 rounds against Lara and 10 against Golovkin

                      He got a draw against Golovkin another fight most thought he lost but somehow had 1 Judge giving him 10 rounds and the other judge who scored it andraw gave him the 7th a round Stevie Wonder would give to Golovkin

                      I haven’t watched his other 2 MDs but wouldn’t be suprised if he didn’t deserve the W in either

                      Just admit Canelo gets favoured by the judges in every fight and has never had a scorecard that wasnt slanted in his favour

                      Just be happy with Canelos shallow victories and stop trying to pretend it’s some it isn’t and he actually deserved the scorecards he receives

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