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Old 12-04-2019, 04:48 AM #21
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Let's take it a step further. You got AJ by stoppage. Before you leave the site I want the password to your account. Then you can leave *****
I'd take the bet

Tell you what, given that you are so certain that it isn't even a competitive fight...

...you get Ruiz by stoppage up to Round 6. I get every other outcome.

Are you that certain?
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:18 AM #22
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Cool, so lets bet then since you're so convinced. I take AJ by Ko/Tko and loser leaves this website for good. Deal?
No point betting, Robbie has already stated he welches on them in this thread.
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:18 AM #23
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Sure, let's just accept all three Facts for a moment. Even if Ruiz knocks out AJ in the first 5 or 6 rounds, I think most people expect the fight to be competitive and interesting. Certainly I do.

In short, somebody is gone get their ass whupped.
I agree. I can imagine both guys winning and losing in various ways. I can be very staunch on predictions, but Iím not on this one. Everyone who is sure of the outcome can beat heavy on it. All boxing fans enjoy being surprised, itís what keeps us interested.
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:19 AM #24
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I'd take the bet

Tell you what, given that you are so certain that it isn't even a competitive fight...

...you get Ruiz by stoppage up to Round 6. I get every other outcome.

Are you that certain?
What are you betting son? Dingo dollars.
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:04 AM #25
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If Ruiz loses you are gonna look so bad dude. This could bite you right in the @ss
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:43 AM #26
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Fact 1. Ruiz is the better boxer. The better boxer is still the better fighter in the rematch.

Fact 2: You can't learn a whole new style of fighting in one camp and successfully implement it fully in your first fight

Fact 3: AJ had a concussion in round 3. He continued taking a beating for 4 more rounds. If this were the NFL he would've been pulled after round 3 and been out until he completed concussion protocol. There is no set time to return. AJ took a beating for 4 rds after the initial concussion. We don't know what type of protocol he's undergone. It's ignored and nobody really asks. When McCracken said he allowed AJ to fight with a concussion from Rd 3 on the guy from Headway made a big deal of it and McCracken walked back his comments.
You make good points.

The first fight was a one sided beat down.

Ruiz IS a much better boxer.

Joshua only really has one chance - landing a bomb.

It a pathetic narrative from Team Joshua - "Redemption" etc, he was never that good to begin with! People seem to forget that he won his IBF belt against Charles Martin and then beat a 40 year old Klit for the other straps.

The whole Joshua backstory is total BS - he was never the humble boy from the street of London saved from a life of crime by boxing.

He was in the right place and the right time, the rest was just clever PR and marketing.
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Old 12-04-2019, 07:44 AM #27
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I'd take the bet

Tell you what, given that you are so certain that it isn't even a competitive fight...

...you get Ruiz by stoppage up to Round 6. I get every other outcome.

Are you that certain?
You sound dumb. Look at the books and realize how stupid you sound
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Old 12-04-2019, 07:51 AM #28
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You need to look at a dictionary and understand what a fact is.

You just look stupid.
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I’d like Joshua to win because it would set up a big fight with the Wilder vs Fury II winner, a fight that would generate a lot interest and sh/t talking among fans. It would be fun.

If Ruiz wins though, great for him. No one would be mad. It would set him up to get the winner of Wilder-Fury too and that too would be a good fight. But I think most of us want Wilder vs Joshua.

What i’d hate to watch would be Fury vs Ruiz. Omg, Fury would stink up the place
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Any combination of Wilder/Joshua/Ruiz would be nice. I also think Joshua vs Fury wouldn’t be bad because like Wilder, Joshua would probably force the excitement.
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Old 12-04-2019, 09:08 AM #30
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You make good points.

The first fight was a one sided beat down.

Ruiz IS a much better boxer.

Joshua only really has one chance - landing a bomb.

It a pathetic narrative from Team Joshua - "Redemption" etc, he was never that good to begin with! People seem to forget that he won his IBF belt against Charles Martin and then beat a 40 year old Klit for the other straps.

The whole Joshua backstory is total BS - he was never the humble boy from the street of London saved from a life of crime by boxing.

He was in the right place and the right time, the rest was just clever PR and marketing.
I mostly agree but for a single point, that Joshua’s only chance is to land a bomb. In the first fight Joshua landed several bombs, the effect was Ruiz continuing to come forward throwing punches. Other than the knockdown, I cannot remember Ruiz getting hit then taking more than a half step backwards. That sort of reaction doesn’t even lend itself to the sort or quick stoppage Takam suffered.

No, Joshua’s only chance as I see it, is to follow Parker’s example, if he can. The danger there is getting countered and hurt or simply getting too tired to stay out of harms way. Joshua doesn’t have Parker’s chin nor it seems ability to defend himself when tired.

I’ve no doubt that the Judges will give Joshua every close round but he’s got to at least keep 7 rounds close.
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