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Old 08-12-2005, 10:43 PM #31
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One thing people dont get about the Lewis fight and that is Lewis could of knocked Tyson out any time he wanted.He toyed with Tyson for making threats about eating kids he does not have.Frazier does have way more heart than Holyfield.As you said XionComrade Foreman beat the living crap out of Frazier he kept getting up.Few fighters would of kept getting up when they know they could not win.Frazier had a better chin than Tyson and more heart and Frazier fought the better people.
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Old 08-12-2005, 10:58 PM #32
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To just say just "More Heart" is a insult Hearns, lol!

Yes I beleive if that was a streetfight with boxing rules, so the corner and ref cant stop it, that Joe would have very well been killed, or if ithad gone to round 6-15 he would have died from a hemorage. George has terrible power, the kind that words and comparisons can't begin to describe, the only way to even get a understanding of that power is to experience it first hand...Anyone want to go for it and tell us about it?

So if George was that strong, just immagine Shavers! Its a miracle that Tyson didn't kill anyone his career, even more so for George and Earnie...

Ya know Ive never heard Shavers talk, was he as personable as Frazier, Norton, and Foreman outside of the ring? I also heard that Foreman was a real oddball in his prime before the Ali fight, he would go through entire Press Conferences without saying a word, I think he did that in the Ali one to...and the fight also!

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Old 08-13-2005, 01:00 AM #33
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Tysons power was just as hyped up as he was.Tyson never showed world class power.As i said before when you can knock out world class hall of famers with your power then you have true power.Tyson never showed that.Foreman did.Shavers did.
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Old 08-15-2005, 03:11 PM #34
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Did Tyson beat anyone worth mentioning? No. (I won't count Holmes seeing that it was nearly 10 years after his prime.)

Frazier was the first man to beat Muhammad Ali. Not only that, he knocked the **** out of him at the end of the match. The only 2 people Frazier lost to where Ali and Foreman; the Greatest Heavyweight of All-Time and a ****ing wrecking machine that could have dropped anyone in his prime.
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i been listenin to u ppl who have no boxing knowledge at all. holyfields didnt knock out tyson, it was TKO. wen douglas dropped tyson, tyson tried to get up but cudnt. he didnt get knocked by mcbride, he quit. wen he got knocked my williams and lewis, he cudve got up, u can tell, but he didnt want to coz he knew he wud loser bad. and youse keep sayin dat tyson got beat by ppl with normal punches, let me say dis again, if a person lands dat many clean punches, ur bound to get knocked. and hearns, lewis cudnt finish tyson anytime he wanted, did u even watch the fight? emanuel steward was screaming at lewis to beat tyson quik, lewis cudnt do it, and he even admited dat tyson had a very hard chin.
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Old 10-01-2005, 12:14 PM #36
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i been listenin to u ppl who have no boxing knowledge at all. holyfields didnt knock out tyson, it was TKO. wen douglas dropped tyson, tyson tried to get up but cudnt. he didnt get knocked by mcbride, he quit. wen he got knocked my williams and lewis, he cudve got up, u can tell, but he didnt want to coz he knew he wud loser bad. and youse keep sayin dat tyson got beat by ppl with normal punches, let me say dis again, if a person lands dat many clean punches, ur bound to get knocked. and hearns, lewis cudnt finish tyson anytime he wanted, did u even watch the fight? emanuel steward was screaming at lewis to beat tyson quik, lewis cudnt do it, and he even admited dat tyson had a very hard chin.
Yes, Mike Tyson definitely had a solid chin. The beating he took from Lewis and Douglas proved that beyond any doubt. It was Tysons heart that was lacking, not his chin.
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tyson definetely does not have a stronger chin than frazier.
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