Why is Canelo's defense and body work being ignored?

[-MEGA-]

Ryoto Murata vs Ndam went the same way. Except GGG was more active than Murata, and Canelo less active than Ndam. Half you bitches were crying about Murata winning that fight and now the same bitches are cheering about this fight going to Canelo and it played out pretty much the same

Learn how to score a fight boys and keep some consistency. This favoritism **** just make you look like some hoes.

Show me my scorecard for ndam vs Murata then you could talk

[-MEGA-]

Also, no credit for taking away ggg's body attack? Wtf?!?!?

[Red_Menace]

You don't get points for rope a doping. Or really for making someone miss lol. Canelo was covering up on the ropes looking for counters and unfortunately he wasn't being active enough.

As I said, he tried to act like Lomachenko but he couldn't do it. He's not good enough to fight like that. While did good work, he did it in bursts. Was very sporadic and could not sustain it.

But if you're making the other person miss, how are they scoring?

That's the thing. Canelo fought in spurts, but the time between Golovkin wasn't able to do a lot because of Canelo's defence. There were too many close rounds for me to say definitively who won. You either favor activity of GGG, or you favor the clearer but sporadic shots of Canelo. Most people tend to favor aggression, and that's fine. People want action. I don't think either way of viewing it is right. Boxing can never be perfect. Sometimes you have to live with scorecards that don't agree, especially when you have two great fighters that are competitive.

[McNulty]

ggg's jab doe!


Canelo had the much more rounded attack and the better defense by far.



Dumbasses

Because he lost miserably, thats why.

[IMDAZED]

You don't get points for rope a doping. Or really for making someone miss lol. Canelo was covering up on the ropes looking for counters and unfortunately he wasn't being active enough.

As I said, he tried to act like Lomachenko but he couldn't do it. He's not good enough to fight like that. While did good work, he did it in bursts. Was very sporadic and could not sustain it.

Actually you do get points for making someone miss. It's called defense.

[jreckoning]

Canelo did fine. I still felt he lost.

[whoelsebutjames]

What 7 rounds are GGG fans sure he won without a doubt? There were at least 5 rounds that could have gone either way. Why can't GGG fans admit that?

I gave GGG 1, 4, 7, 8, and 9. 1 and 4 were close.

I gave Canelo 2,3,5,6, 10,11, and 12. 5, 6, 10, and 11 were close.

With so many close rounds a draw seems expected.

Should the jab even be a scoring punch doe? I don't score them but some of these weirdoes do.

Backing up? yes. Survival mode? No. Alvarez never looked hurt in that fight. Alvarez fights off the ropes or out of the corner in most of his fights. GGG definitely kept him backing up more than usual, but they squared up and fought close quarters plenty of times in each round. There wasn't any running. GGG winning is a fine card, but there's no way Alvarez deserves the kind of disrespect people are showing him. That was a great fight.

https://thepunchreport.com/2017/09/1...ecard-robbery/

[True That]

GGG vs. Alvarez: Who really won
September 18, 2017 |

By Bradley D. Cision: Another predictable, controversial, and expected decision has been handed down in the most anticipated fight of the year last Saturday night with the Saul “Canelo Alvarez (49-1-2, 34 KOs) vs. middleweight champion Gennady “GGG” Golovkin (37-0-1, 33 KOs) being scored as a controversial 12 round draw at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Many boxing fans have been waiting for the Canelo Golovkin fight for almost two years, but many boxing fans predicted that if the fight went to the scorecards, Canelo would find a way to win.




Fortunately for GGG, the worst that happened was that Canelo was given a draw, and didn’t steal his titles away. Many people saw the fight as a clear, although close win for GGG, and a few saw it as a legitimate draw.

What most people saw is GGG controlling the pace for 90 percent of the fight, backing Alvarez up to the ropes constantly, and out-landing him in jabs by almost 50 jabs. The jab controlled the pace of the fight. GGG out-landed Canelo 218-169 and landed more punches in 10 of 12 rounds.

Alvarez also looked like he had minimal answers for GGG as he was on his bike until he fought in spurts trying to counterpunch GGG with his back to the ropes constantly, especially in the later rounds where GGG looked completely comfortable and Alvarez had no real answer for a fighter that finally wasn’t smaller, or past his prime, or has a weak chin.

In an anonymous online poll, a whopping 79% of the people polled thought GGG won the fight. Only 10% thought Canelo won, and 11% thought it was a draw.




Who did you have winning Canelo-GGG?
10%
Canelo Alvarez
(386 votes)

79%
Gennady Golovkin
(3044 votes)

11%
Draw
(410 votes)

3840 votes total were submitted in this online poll.

Out of a total of 69 boxing writers and fighters, a landslide 54 thought GGG won the fight. Only FIVE thought Canelo won, and the rest had it a draw.

Teddy Atlas ——————————–>118-110 GGG

Brian Campbell (CBS) ———————>117-111 GGG

Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) —————→ 117-111 GGG

Harold Lederman (HBO) ——————116-112 GGG

Dan Rafael (ESPN) ————————>116-112 GGG

Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ————>116-112 GGG

Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) ———–>116-112 GGG

Amir Khan ———————————>116-112 GGG

Matthew Macklin ————————–>116-112 GGG

Steve Lillis (BoxNation) ——————→ 116-112 GGG

Bob Velin (USA Today) ——————–>116-112 GGG

Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) ———–>116-112 GGG

Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ———→ 116-112 GGG

Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) —→ 116-112 GGG

Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ———→ 116-112 GGG

Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ————>116-113 GGG

Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ——————>115-112 GGG

Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ————————>115-113 GGG

Gary Locket ——————————→ 115-113 GGG

Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) —————–>115-113 GGG

Phil Murphy (ESPN) ———————–>115-113 GGG

Mike Harris (SI) —————————>115-113 GGG

Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ——>115-113 GGG

MMA Brazil ——————————>115-113 GGG

Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) ————→ 115-113 GGG

Rob Tatum (Combat Press) —————→ 115-113 GGG

Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ———>115-113 GGG

Joel Diaz ———————————>115-113 GGG

Max Kellerman————–>115:113 GGG

Dave Moretti (judge) ——>115:113 GGG

Lennox Lewis —————————>Golovkin

Austin Trout ——————————>Golovkin

Danny Jacobs ————->Golovkin

Enzo Macarenelli —————————Golovkin

James Brady (SB Nation) —————>Golovkin

Terence Crawford ————————>Golovkin

Sergio Martinez —————————>Golovkin

Liam Smith ——————————>Golovkin

Peter Quillin ——————————>Golovkin

Liam Williams —————————>Golovkin

Ohara Davies ——————————→ Golovkin

Luke Campbell —————————>Golovkin

Dave Coldwell —————————>Golovkin

Badou Jack ——————————>Golovkin

Kevin Kelly ————————→ Golovkin

Dana White ———–>Golovkin

Steve Kim ———————————–>Golovkin

Doug Fischer ——————————–>Golovkin

Ring TV Cynthia Conte, M.Rosenthal—Golovkin

Michael Montero —————————→ Golovkin

Joe Rogan (UFC) —————————→ Golovkin

Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) ————Golovkin

Sergey Kovalev ————————————→ Golovkin

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr ———————————–> Golovkin

Don trella (judge) ————————>114:114 Draw

Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) —→ 114-114 Draw

Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) ———–>114-114 Draw

Associated Press ————————–>114-114 Draw

Lance Pugmire (LA Times) —————→ 114-114 Draw

Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ———————>114-114 Draw

Roy Jones Jr.———————————>114:114 Draw

Kenny Porter ——————————>114-114 Draw

Tommy Hearns —————————–>114:114 Draw

De La Hoya ——————————–>115-113 Canelo

Bernard Hopkins ————————–>115-113 Canelo

Erik Morales ——————————→ 116-112 Canelo

Julio Cesar Chavez Sr ———————————>116:112 Canelo

Adalaide Byrd (Judge) ———————————->118:110 Canelo

Unfortunately for the sport, this type of judging will continue as we have no oversight except the commissions themselves and they have already forgiven the one 118-110 scorecard from Adalaide Byrd.

[Donnie Herrera]

7-5...nelo...

[Damn Wicked]

His real problem was his conditioning. He gave Golovkin too much momentum because he GASSED out. If he had mayweather conditioning he could fight all the rounds like the first 3 rounds

Yes, he gassed out. Golovkin had a big part in that. Canelo had to spend a big chunk of his offense early in the fight to prevent Golovkin from walking through him. Canelo lost energy by trying to get GGG's respect early in the fight. Then after that he had to conserve energy throughout the fight but he was having a lot of difficulty doing that because Golovkin was constantly pressuring him.

I think Casnelo did the smartest thing he could do by trying to get Golovkin's respect early...otherwise Golovkin would have steam-rolled him. That early onslaught from Canelo made Golovkin more hesitant than he would have been had Canelo not hit him with his heavy artillery.