How Manny Tried To Rob Jeff "The Hornet" Horn - And Failed

[Combat Talk Radio]

Yeah I said it.

https://postcourier.com.pg/pacquiaos...tics-revealed/

Summary:

• Freddie Roach complaining about the color of Horn's wraps
• Roach lying about the adrenaline so that Horn would get busted with no way to prevent it
• Manny telling Horn to "break, break" while in the clinch

Disgraceful. They went in there afraid and tried every trick in the book to throw Jeff "The Hornet" Horn off his gameplan - and it failed.

['b']

Freddie "I swear I'm not ******ed bro, it's Parkinson's" Roach is a Marty McFly, Back to the Future talking head.

[j0zef]

Gee, sure hope it's not a garbage article written by an Australian [New Guinean] newspaper.

Come on man, Pac went to Australia where he lost a very questionable decision in a fight most people thought he easily won. He landed twice as many punches as Horn.

It's cool to be a Horn fan, but you gotta stop drumming up bums like Corcoran as some elite tests, or coming up with some horse**** that Horn was gonna get screwed, when in actuality it was Pac who fought on hostile soil and got f'd over in most people's eyes.

[sammi]

It’s hard when you fight the a side
It’s hard when you fight on foreign soil
For me it was the type of fight either way people were going to go off about
Doesn’t help when our sport has some of the worst commentators in all of sport

[Combat Talk Radio]

Gee, sure hope it's not a garbage article written by an Australian [New Guinean] newspaper.

Come on man, Pac went to Australia where he lost a very questionable decision in a fight most people thought he easily won. He landed twice as many punches as Horn.

It's cool to be a Horn fan, but you gotta stop drumming up bums like Corcoran as some elite tests, or coming up with some horse**** that Horn was gonna get screwed, when in actuality it was Pac who fought on hostile soil and got f'd over in most people's eyes.

Errol Spence goes over to fight the A-Side on "foreign soil". Makes a statement.

Manny Pacquiao goes over to fight a B-Side on "foreign soil". Uses lies and deceit to try and get his knockout instead of using straight up force. Gets UNANIMOUS loss on his record.


I'll keep asking the question. Why does Manny get a pass? Why can Spence do it and Manny can't? Don't throw out age, don't throw out "foreign/hostile soil" excuses. He LOST! Because he failed to knock the guy out when he had the chance. That's all that matters. Now, we hear that they were so desperate they used underhanded tactics - and you STILL give excuses for him.

[iamboxing]

Horn deserves credit, but lets face it if this was prime Pac he wouldn't last past 4 rounds. Also, don't ask us not to bring up age or location when they were obvious factors for Horn's win.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Errol Spence goes over to fight the A-Side on "foreign soil". Makes a statement.

Manny Pacquiao goes over to fight a B-Side on "foreign soil". Uses lies and deceit to try and get his knockout instead of using straight up force. Gets UNANIMOUS loss on his record.


I'll keep asking the question. Why does Manny get a pass? Why can Spence do it and Manny can't? Don't throw out age, don't throw out "foreign/hostile soil" excuses. He LOST! Because he failed to knock the guy out when he had the chance. That's all that matters. Now, we hear that they were so desperate they used underhanded tactics - and you STILL give excuses for him.

Manny is not from the States, so he's been fighting on "foreign" soil for the past, 15+ years?

[j0zef]

Errol Spence goes over to fight the A-Side on "foreign soil". Makes a statement.

Manny Pacquiao goes over to fight a B-Side on "foreign soil". Uses lies and deceit to try and get his knockout instead of using straight up force. Gets UNANIMOUS loss on his record.


I'll keep asking the question. Why does Manny get a pass? Why can Spence do it and Manny can't? Don't throw out age, don't throw out "foreign/hostile soil" excuses. He LOST! Because he failed to knock the guy out when he had the chance. That's all that matters. Now, we hear that they were so desperate they used underhanded tactics - and you STILL give excuses for him.

That's actually not a good example IMO. Spence was the challenger, went over to the foreign soil and knocked out his opponent. He NEEDED to make a statement.
Pac was the champion, and by far the A-side, who for some reason went over to the foreign soil where (in most people's eyes) he got robbed by a challenger on foreign soil. He didn't NEED to make a statement.

Nobody is saying Manny is getting a pass for anything. Failing to knock out someone? That's BS. The vast majority of title fights goto a decision. A champion shouldn't NEED a knockout in order to guarantee a win, especially a champion with a career like Manny has had.

This is not about Manny getting a pass. I don't even like the guy, mostly because of personal reasons rather than boxing. This is about a fighter getting robbed on the cards. Virtually every pundit thought Manny won, and the punch stats are ridiculous as well. I don't care what some newspaper in Australia writes about Roach. I care about what we can prove, and that's the fight we saw with our own eyes and opinions of the most respected folks in boxing.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Pac was the champion, and by far the A-side, who for some reason went over to the foreign soil where (in most people's eyes) he got robbed by a challenger on foreign soil. He didn't NEED to make a statement.

Manny needed to make a statement BECAUSE of his reputation.

What is Manny most known for? Knocking people out.
What is Mayweather most known for after he came out retirement before Marquez? Getting decisions.

Mayweather kept on getting decisions every fight after that except Ortiz and Hatton. He did what he was expected to do.

Manny, all of a sudden, is going the distance with guys like Bradley, Vargas, Rios, Algieri(!)...he's not doing what he's expected to do. He's "winning" but not the way he should be.

So then the expectation changes. Manny is expected to win fights because he's fresh off a win streak.

Manny made the stupid decision to accept the Horn fight for the money. He was the one who wanted a knockout to convince Floyd to rematch after getting schooled. So the expectation changes again - he's now expected to spark this guy in short order. Why? Roach said he would, he said he would, betting odds said he would.

Come round 9 of the fight, Manny COULD HAVE knocked the guy out and didn't. That cost him.

As said before, you score round by round, not in accumulation. Jeff "The Hornet" Horn was bullying Manny all over the ring in 7 of the 12 rounds. 6 out of 8 reputable judges agreed that Horn won on a round-by-round scoring, 7 rounds to 5. That's a close fight, not a robbery.

Where Manny went wrong, as he admitted, is backing off Horn after Round 9 and expecting him to quit instead of finishing him.

So no, Manny needed the knockout. He knew it, Roach knew it, you all knew that. He failed. He shouldn't get a pass simply because he was the A-Side. When you're losing the fight, you do what you need to do to win it - and Horn's bullying dominated the first 4 rounds easily, then he swept 10-12.