Originally posted by Boxing Logic
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You act like Floyd-Pac was the root cause, not the result. I think its clear many "boxing fans" always had pro-black, pro-black American, anti-white, anti-foreigner "allegiances." Floyd and the "black consciousness movement" both just came to prominence around the same time, and started to use social media at the same time, so it was a perfect storm that brought a lot of those types to the forefront. Then all the objective non-racist people could see that that there was this huge group that hated them and anyone like them, a group that was completely illogical due to their bias to the point that they would defend Floyd denying fans the best fights and holding up divisions, to the point they would defend the literal ruining of the sport of boxing so long as they thought it benefited their racist agenda, which has since happened as you can see the sport has become a complete joke in the wake of "Mayweather era," so all the objective non-racist people started rooting against Floyd and what he represented because they could see it was destroying the sport not to mention it was just pure ignorance and not a good thing to root for.
I dont like to agree with Arum, but he's correct in one respect. Racism is a cancer. So yeah, when average people started to realize there was this huge racist group pushing an agenda behind a certain fighter and adviser, average people recognized that racism as the cancer it was to the sport of boxing, not to mention, you know, life, the world, etc, so those average people obviously found themselves against that. That doesn't make them a toxic fanbase or an equal offender. They were just the natural, normal reaction, sort of like the human body has its natural response when a virus enters the body and starts causing problems. When a cancer takes over the sport of boxing, true boxing fans are going to root against it and write comments criticizing it. That's normal. But the way you put it is like there are the biased Floyd fans and the biased Pacquiao fans and the two are equally ignorant and equally problematic. I dont agree at all. Yes Im sure there are some racist Philippinos who exist who rooted for Pacquiao for the same reasons so many Americans rooted for Floyd, but that's the exception not the rule in my opinion. I think most people just rooted for Pacquiao because he was exciting and good for the sport, and because they were rooting against the ruining of the sport of boxing which is what Floyd represented.
So yeah... I see what you're saying in general, but I think equating the virus of boxing (racist people in the sport and racist fans pushing racist agendas usually with the help of corruption, since the two often go hand in hand, to the detriment of good fights being made and to the detriment of the competitive integrity of the sport across the board) with its potential cure (i.e. the people speaking out about how there is a virus in boxing right now, and criticizing it, and saying why it's ruining the sport, and how to fix it, and calling on other fans and people in the media and fighters and anyone involved with the sport to start speaking out about it as well and start changing things where they can) is very unfair, and a big reason why the virus of boxing continues to go stronger. It's because people are not differentiating the passionate racist fans who are destroying boxing from the passionate fans who are passionate not due to racism, but due to a desire to fix the sport and save it from that mix of corruption and racism which have hurt the sport so much the last 15 years anyway. They just throw all the passionate fans into the same bucket, as if being passionate about the right things is not different than being passionate about the wrong things. That's obviously not true. Maybe in some philosophic debate under a certain context it could true, but when it comes to boxing and the quality of the sport itself, it's not true and its damaging to the sport for people to act like it is.
I dont like to agree with Arum, but he's correct in one respect. Racism is a cancer. So yeah, when average people started to realize there was this huge racist group pushing an agenda behind a certain fighter and adviser, average people recognized that racism as the cancer it was to the sport of boxing, not to mention, you know, life, the world, etc, so those average people obviously found themselves against that. That doesn't make them a toxic fanbase or an equal offender. They were just the natural, normal reaction, sort of like the human body has its natural response when a virus enters the body and starts causing problems. When a cancer takes over the sport of boxing, true boxing fans are going to root against it and write comments criticizing it. That's normal. But the way you put it is like there are the biased Floyd fans and the biased Pacquiao fans and the two are equally ignorant and equally problematic. I dont agree at all. Yes Im sure there are some racist Philippinos who exist who rooted for Pacquiao for the same reasons so many Americans rooted for Floyd, but that's the exception not the rule in my opinion. I think most people just rooted for Pacquiao because he was exciting and good for the sport, and because they were rooting against the ruining of the sport of boxing which is what Floyd represented.
So yeah... I see what you're saying in general, but I think equating the virus of boxing (racist people in the sport and racist fans pushing racist agendas usually with the help of corruption, since the two often go hand in hand, to the detriment of good fights being made and to the detriment of the competitive integrity of the sport across the board) with its potential cure (i.e. the people speaking out about how there is a virus in boxing right now, and criticizing it, and saying why it's ruining the sport, and how to fix it, and calling on other fans and people in the media and fighters and anyone involved with the sport to start speaking out about it as well and start changing things where they can) is very unfair, and a big reason why the virus of boxing continues to go stronger. It's because people are not differentiating the passionate racist fans who are destroying boxing from the passionate fans who are passionate not due to racism, but due to a desire to fix the sport and save it from that mix of corruption and racism which have hurt the sport so much the last 15 years anyway. They just throw all the passionate fans into the same bucket, as if being passionate about the right things is not different than being passionate about the wrong things. That's obviously not true. Maybe in some philosophic debate under a certain context it could true, but when it comes to boxing and the quality of the sport itself, it's not true and its damaging to the sport for people to act like it is.
This is the exact kind of dude you should've complained about chrisJS years ago but didn't.
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