Does Ggg deserve top 20 spot at 160 on all time scale?

[DARKSEID]

Who cares?! He probably made over $60 million between the Brook, Jacobs and Canelo fights. That is more money that all the GGG haters will make in their lifetime combined.

"Who cares about his skill as a fighter, because his bank account is what I care about"

This is a boxing forum bro, the golovkin fanboy site is somewhere else.

[DARKSEID]

Not necessarily a who beats who but I’d go something like this off the top.

1. Greb
2. Monzon
3. Robinson
4. Hagler
5. Ketchel
6. Walker
7. Flowers
8. Cerdan
9. Burley
10. LaMotta
11. Hopkins
12. Dempsey
13. Zale
14. Steele
15. Benvenutti
16. Giardello
17. Fullmer
18. Golovkin
19. Ryan
20. Yarosz

Very deep division historically. Perhaps along with Welterweight he deepest. I also could see Golovkin down to 25 or so but feel low end of the top 20 is fair enough.

You put Roy Jones JR, James Toney and Sergio Martinez above Golovkin?

When Golovkin hasn't beaten anybody?

Hell I rank Kelly pavlik above Golovkin.

[chrisJS]

You put Roy Jones JR, James Toney and Sergio Martinez above Golovkin?

When Golovkin hasn't beaten anybody?

Their body of work at Middleweight is very small compared to Golovkins. I’d pick Jones and Toney to beat him.

[Fists_of_Fury]

I can't get over how terrible his resume is. How is a narrow win over the scrub that is Jacobs your best win? Terrible.

Right?! But his bunboys will be like: He defended a regular paper belt that he was gifted against mostly bums doe. Also he gets wins for supposed ducks. He was robbed against Canelo doe

[DARKSEID]

Their body of work at Middleweight is very small compared to Golovkins. I’d pick Jones and Toney to beat him.

When I rank fighters, I rank them based on who they beat because in boxing you're only as good as who you beat.

Body of work doesn't mean anything when you have weak opposition.

[Boxing Goat]

I say yes!

Lol ya think? He's tied for the 1st most mw title fight wins of all time.

I challenge someone to make a list of 20 mw fighters who rank above him. No fkn way.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Lol ya think? He's tied for the 1st most mw title fight wins of all time.

I challenge someone to make a list of 20 mw fighters who rank above him. No fkn way.

It would be easy to find fighters better than him if you aren't blinded by GGG nuthugging goggles. He beat nobody. Roy Jones **** on GGG's middleweight career with 1 win. Many others actually fought and beat better fighters than Jacobs or drawing and losing to Canelo.

[DARKSEID]

Lol ya think? He's tied for the 1st most mw title fight wins of all time.

I challenge someone to make a list of 20 mw fighters who rank above him. No fkn way.

Bernard Hopkins
Sugar Ray Robinson
Jake Lamotta
Harry Greb
Carlos Monzon
Marvin Hagler
Dick Tiger
Marcel Cerdan
Emile Griffith
Randy Turpin
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones JR
Sumbu Kalambay
James Toney
Sergio Martinez
Kelly Pavlik
Stanley Ketchell
Gerald McClellan
Terry Downes
Rocky Graziano

[Blue54]

can anybody here really make a top 20 MW list all time? without google... this division goes back 100 years.

Yes the 160 division has a history of many great fighters of top of my head Monzon,Robinson,Hagler,Fullmer,
Jones,Hopkins,Eubank,Ketchel,Tiger,Martinez,Walker ,Flowers Fittzsmons,Zale,Cerdan,Lamotta,
Mclean,Toney thats just off the top of my head with out really listing them.

[stealthradon]

- Refuses any/all CW for smaller fighters (Canelo, Cotto, Brook, etc.)
- Requires CW for *some* (Andre Ward, cough) bigger fighters...even though he was willing to fight Froch and JCC Jr. at 168
- Requires opponents to wear gloves of his choosing
- Requires opponents to let Abel wrap their hands
- Requires selection of judges...only to blame THEIR SELECTED JUDGES (hi Dave Moretti) after the fight doesn't go "their way"...even though Canelo did exactly what Abel asked of him

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