Why doesn't any gyms teach the classical orthodox stance anymore?

[Biolink]

+Head off the center line
+Left arm basically serves as a shield to fight behind
+No real line of attack
+/-Right hand protects the chin
-Open to left hooks
+/-May generate less power?

Modern Stance



+Generates most power
+Entire body coverage by high guard
+/- More reactionary defense required to block specific spots?
+/- Invites opponents into personal space with no left arm to shield
-Body/Head alignment is more centered



I can't see how the first one fell out of fashion. You're more open to left hooks but you'll have a hell of a time getting past the left arm. Your head is already to the side so you're already in a defensive posture. With the other you can contort your body to get the most power, but everything is straighter and more inviting for them to counter attack.

[Wuckoo]

I've wondered this myself but tbh it's much easier to learn the modern stance than old school

[PitbullParsons]

I think every stance should be taught to kids and go with what works best for them but it lets them be more versatile when they need to be. If it's a kid with a lot of potential then let the kid shadowbox after teaching all of the stances to see what he naturally goes to and focus on that.

[Wuckoo]

Another thing I'd say is that I'm a southpaw so it's something I think coaches would discourage me from doing since we'd be more open to jabs. But I've been thing of trying it

[PitbullParsons]

There's a time and a place. It all depends who you're fighting. Wouldn't be bad to try during sparring but mainly focus on head movement so if you do use it in a fight you are giving up the guard but still have your movement to elude the jab/hook.

[nivek535]

I think every stance should be taught to kids and go with what works best for them but it lets them be more versatile when they need to be. If it's a kid with a lot of potential then let the kid shadowbox after teaching all of the stances to see what he naturally goes to and focus on that.

yesssss have all the tools u need

[ShoulderRoll]

There aren't many trainers around anymore who can teach it. A lot of the old school American boxing knowledge is going to die out because of that.