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  • #61
    Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
    Same could be said of GGG. Only difference.... substitute names Wade, Rubio, Monroe etc etc.
    Actually, the real difference is that GGG fights his mandatory.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by bambam182 View Post
      if canelo fought the same guys GGG has, he would also be unbeaten and his KO would be higher.

      ok, so back to my question. who has GGG beaten that makes him the best? canelo beat lara and trout when all you fa9s on here were saying he was ducking ducking ducking ducking them? remember? or did everyone forget that since the ginger proved you guys wrong?

      canelo has at least fought A level fighters, may, cotto, lara according to some of you. name 1 A level fighter GGG has fought? you cant therefore he isnt the best. WIlder has a better resume then GGG.
      ok. Good post until the last sentence.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by bklynboy View Post
        ok. Good post until the last sentence.
        wilder and GGG have both fought nobodies but he has a higher KO percent. the KO percent is what all the GGG fans claim makes GGG better than canelo.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by bambam182 View Post
          of course, he has KO'd C level fighters. you guys said he was ducking trout and lara, and he fought and beat both. didnt lara call out GGG but you guys say lara priced himself out, yet GGG price himself out with canelo ROFL.

          stupid idiots.

          you guys said he was ducking trout and lara, he fights them and beats them but he still doesnt get credit. pathetic fans.
          What DLH is trying to offer is a financial package that would give GGG a potential 90/10 split. That's not pricing yourself out...GGG just wants what's fair. And even Loeffler himself acknowledge Canelo as the A-side. But the numbers indicate that Canelo is not so far ahead an A-side that he deserves 90/10. If this was FMJ, you'd have a case. But this is f#ckin Canelo. A guy who's past 2 ppv events have underperformed. While GGG's ppv numbers continue to rise. Canelo is the A-side. But no so far an A-side that he can forego a percentage split. Please stop bringing up Lara...GGG/Lara is not an interesting fight if you're any kind of boxing fan...I wish that talk would just die...Lara doesn't have anything that could possible put GGG in danger of losing to him. Please stop talking about Lara...that fight would suck.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by bambam182 View Post
            wilder and GGG have both fought nobodies but he has a higher KO percent. the KO percent is what all the GGG fans claim makes GGG better than canelo.
            You can't compare the KO percentages of a heavyweight to a middleweight. Go look at the KO percentages of all heavyweights. It's basically the only way you win at heavyweight. GGG's KO streak is much more impressive because he's doing it at f#ckin middleweight. Do you even understand that?!

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            • #66
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
              Same could be said of GGG. Only difference.... substitute names Wade, Rubio, Monroe etc etc.

              Originally posted by JUNIABOY View Post
              Actually, the real difference is that GGG fights his mandatory.
              'Mandatory' doesn't really mean a lot these days. Certainly doesn't often mean the toughest challenge. Weren't Wade and Rubio 2 of GGG's mandatories? Maybe even Monroe as well.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by JUNIABOY View Post
                You can't compare the KO percentages of a heavyweight to a middleweight. Go look at the KO percentages of all heavyweights. It's basically the only way you win at heavyweight. GGG's KO streak is much more impressive because he's doing it at f#ckin middleweight. Do you even understand that?!
                oh i forgot, against C level opposition. do you understand that?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
                  Same could be said of GGG. Only difference.... substitute names Wade, Rubio, Monroe etc etc.

                  'Mandatory' doesn't really mean a lot these days. Certainly doesn't often mean the toughest challenge. Weren't Wade and Rubio 2 of GGG's mandatories? Maybe even Monroe as well.
                  Are we talking about the same sport here? Mandatory means mandatory. It means you have to fight the next best challenger according to their rankings. Did we already forget that instead of Wade, it was supposed to be Tureano Johnson? Fighting your mandatory means you get to keep your world boxing title. Am I missing something? Or are you trying to imply something about how prize fighters use the belts specifically for negotiating?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by bambam182 View Post
                    oh i forgot, against C level opposition. do you understand that?
                    Lemieux wasn't C-level. Nor was Kell Brook. Nor was Martin Murray. Nor was Curtis Stevens. There are bunch of legit B-level boxers on GGG's resume. Unless you're calling them C-level because you don't follow boxing? I don't know man with you. If everybody GGG has fought is C-level, then there are no B-level fighters in the middleweight division...which I know to be bull. So which is it? GGG has fought at least B-level fighters?...or there are no B-level fighters at middleweight?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by JUNIABOY View Post
                      You can't compare the KO percentages of a heavyweight to a middleweight. Go look at the KO percentages of all heavyweights. It's basically the only way you win at heavyweight. GGG's KO streak is much more impressive because he's doing it at f#ckin middleweight. Do you even understand that?!
                      That guy is talking trash and is just an ignorant dumb hater.

                      He is not even able to differentiate between a guy who ducks all the biggest challenges to a guy who is the most feared fighter on the planet and has Mexican Warriors drop their belt in fear.

                      He also shows that he is very simpleminded and has no idea about the sport, he probably doesnt know shit.

                      Boxrec makes it easy for you and gauges an opponents quality.

                      If 2 great fighters fight each other its a 5 star fight, A and B Class = 4 Star, A and C = 3 Star, A vs D = 2 Star, A vs bum = 1 Star.

                      Wilder has a much much much worse resume than GGG, he didnt fight one better opponent than GGG in his entire career on a fight to fight basis.

                      When you compare their last 17 opponents, 16 of GGGs opponents were ranked higher than Wilders. Only 1 opponent was ranked equal.



                      I rather let facts speak for themselves.

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