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Old 12-02-2018, 11:50 AM #21
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Nobody has denied the $50M offer.

The problem was they were asking Frank Warren and BT to put up part of the money to get the rights, leaving Sky in the cold. Warren has confirmed that.
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Old 12-02-2018, 11:53 AM #22
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That judge from the UK scored it a draw
That doesn’t change the fact he was paid off by Haymon as was the Mexican judge

Pay one for a wilder win and the other for a draw as a back up

That is the only way to explain their scoring
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Old 12-02-2018, 01:20 PM #23
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Why can't people just enjoy a great night? And fcuk boxing promoters - stop taking sides, support the boxers not the people whose job it is to separate you from as much money as they can.
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Old 12-02-2018, 04:36 PM #24
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Nobody has denied the $50M offer.

The problem was they were asking Frank Warren and BT to put up part of the money to get the rights, leaving Sky in the cold. Warren has confirmed that.
Espinoza of Showtime said that he has no idea what Warren was talking about, that BT putting up money had zero to do with it, and that it very well could have aired on SKY.
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Old 12-02-2018, 04:43 PM #25
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Espinoza of Showtime said that he has no idea what Warren was talking about, that BT putting up money had zero to do with it, and that it very well could have aired on SKY.
So which one is it? Because Espinoza is saying the contract stated a Sky PPV and that he's seen it and it was offered to matchrooms lawyers and they refused to respond.

Warren claims he's seen the contract and Finkel as asserted the same. Warren states he and Finkel were working on the contract and it was 50+30 2 deal fight with money coming from BT so as main party Finkel and Haymon had distribution rights which would go to the UK for BT sport's. Effectively killing any Joshua fight.

Espinoza says Warren is wrong.. then mistaken..then says he didn't say that at all and it was misconstrued all in the space of a minute, when warren said it on film 😂😂.

Let me ask you this... If wilder fury does even 400k, it falls massively short of generating revenue to the tune of 50 million.

Do you think that showtime ..or anyone else in the US is going to provide 50 million dollars in guarantee to AJ, thinking that money is in any way going to be recouped? You think AJ's drawing power in the USA gets another 4/500k buys?

The offer... Was.. a sham...
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Old 12-02-2018, 04:44 PM #26
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Espinoza of Showtime said that he has no idea what Warren was talking about, that BT putting up money had zero to do with it, and that it very well could have aired on SKY.
Espinoza is trying to save face for a fighter he is affiliated with.

Why would Frank Warren need to lie about that? He has absolutely no need to be concerned about a deal with fighters he doesn't work with.

Warren even said if he was in Hearn's position, he would want the fight on Sky, so he wasn't even taking sides in the matter. Warren just openly said about the conversation that they had.

They brought an offer to Frank and BT about helping put up the money for the rights to the fight. That's the top and bottom of it. The whole $50m thing was to have complete control over the broadcast. They were basically going to use BT as an investor and they get something return. It happens in every business, investment. But Hearn was never going to go for that.


And by the way, i'm not a Hearn/AJ fanboy. I also think Hearn's flat fee offers are a way of saving face too on their part.

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Old 12-02-2018, 04:49 PM #27
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Espinoza is trying to save face for a fighter he is affiliated with.

Why would Frank Warren need to lie about that? He has absolutely no need to be concerned about a deal with fighters he doesn't work with.

Warren even said if he was in Hearn's position, he would want the fight on Sky, so he wasn't even taking sides in the matter. Warren just openly said about the conversation that they had.
Espinoza talked about verifiable term sheets and other easily refutable things that, of course, the Hearns CANNOT refute...because they are true.

But, you believe what you like...
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Espinoza talked about verifiable term sheets and other easily refutable things that, of course, the Hearns CANNOT refute...because they are true.

But, you believe what you like...
True or not, both sides can be blamed.

Hearn has sent a signed contract to Wilder and it's still there waiting for their signature but no response. Not saying they should sign it, but they should negotiate. That goes for both offers from both sides.
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Old 12-02-2018, 05:11 PM #29
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True or not, both sides can be blamed.

Hearn has sent a signed contract to Wilder and it's still there waiting for their signature but no response. Not saying they should sign it, but they should negotiate. That goes for both offers from both sides.
Hearn sent a lowball offer that represents the lowest percentage offered to any big fight name he has ever fought.

They are going to have to do better especially after last night.
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