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Old 03-07-2018, 08:27 PM #41
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Doesn't VADA follow WADA rules?

That's right the drug testing org that sets the rules for 100s of sports wouldn't do ****. There's hundreds of Mexicans competing in many sports with clen in their bodies competing perfectly legally.

“We acknowledge that the clenbuterol meat contamination issue is unsatisfactory,” said Olivier Niggli, Director General, WADA. “Accordingly, since 2011, the Agency has carried out several research studies aimed at providing analytical means to distinguish ingestion of clenbuterol by pharmacological origin versus that of meat contamination,” he continued. “We will continue to invest in scientific research to try to solve this issue as quickly as possible,” Niggli continued. “However, in the meantime, we maintain that disciplinary proceedings against athletes with low level urinary concentrations, from countries known for significant risk of exposure, would have little to no prospect of success; and, would be very unfair to the athletes concerned.”

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"All of the values were below 1ng/ml and therefore in the range of potential meat contamination cases."


Canelo's results were between 0.6-0.8
WADA don't make rules, they make recommendations, man. It's up to the governing bodies of the sports who requested the testing to decide what to do with those recommendations. It shouldn't really be about punishment anyway IMO unless they can definitely prove deliberate wrong-doing, however (and also in IMO) the burden of proof for the purposes of fighter safety should be significantly lower. What I'm saying - kinda - is that a fight probably shouldn't be sanctioned if a fighter pops negative for anything (above the set limits), but further punitive sanctions should not be enforced unless its demonstrable with a high degree of likelihood that the fighter deliberately used PEDs.
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Old 03-07-2018, 08:30 PM #42
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WADA don't make rules, they make recommendations, man. It's up to the governing bodies of the sports who requested the testing to decide what to do with those recommendations. It shouldn't really be about punishment anyway IMO unless they can definitely prove deliberate wrong-doing, however (and also in IMO) the burden of proof for the purposes of fighter safety should be significantly lower. What I'm saying - kinda - is that a fight probably shouldn't be sanctioned if a fighter pops negative for anything (above the set limits), but further punitive sanctions should not be enforced unless its demonstrable with a high degree of likelihood that the fighter deliberately used PEDs.
WADA make rules and punishments for all the sports they oversee.
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Old 03-07-2018, 08:40 PM #43
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WADA make rules and punishments for all the sports they oversee.

Mmmm. Yeah. Actually you're basically right:

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Sports are required to undertake three steps in order to be fully compliant with the Code: acceptance, implementation, and enforcement.

Code acceptance means that a sport organization agrees to the principles of the Code and agrees to implement and comply with the Code.

Once a sport organization accepts the Code, it must then implement it. The implementation of the Code is the process that an anti-doping organization goes through to amend its rules and policies so that all mandatory articles and principles of the Code are included.

Finally, enforcement refers to the sport organization actually enforcing its amended rules and policies in accordance with the Code.

WADA monitors implementation of and compliance with the Code.
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- I hadn't quite understood it's role properly. It would actually be a big step in the right direction if the sanctioning orgs and governing bodies would sign up to the WADA protocols,.
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