Boxing Forum
Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Boxing History

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-29-2012, 12:49 AM #1
Capaedia Capaedia is offline
JMM Stan
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 2,922
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 21
Capaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 143,850,535,516.27
Bank: 21,273,055,791,474.77
Total Points: 21,416,906,326,991.04
your pressie - McGoorty Keep up the top posts! - Barnburner 1000 posts! Keep spreading knowledge. - JAB5239 1,000 posts - Scott9945 Great posting - joseph5620 
Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks Happy Holidays  Capaedia - !! AI-Holmes!! Happy holidays bro! - led* happy holidays to a good poster - Cleto_Reyes 
Default Misjudged fighter qualities

Underrated and overrated fighter qualities. I get the feeling this has been done a thousand times but we have no current topic.

Louis and Liston's chins has to be mentioned. They were both much sturdier than some would have you believe.

I think Joe Frazier's handspeed is quite underrated, but his power is often overrated.

George Foreman's style never seems to be done justice. I think he had more caution than he is given credit for. Not a whole lot, but his fight with Boone Kirkman is a good example of him establishing an edge before he starts going for the kill.

Larry Holme's staredown is my outside pick. Never hear it get a mention, but that was a hell of a staredown.

I think this is going to be an unpopular one, but I think Robinson's tendency (not ability!) to box is overstated. Although I'll admit that I have a lot more reading to do about that.

There, one of those isn't a heavyweight. What do you think? What are your picks?
Capaedia is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
Old 02-29-2012, 02:15 AM #2
Capaedia Capaedia is offline
JMM Stan
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 2,922
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 21
Capaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 143,850,535,516.27
Bank: 21,273,055,791,474.77
Total Points: 21,416,906,326,991.04
your pressie - McGoorty Keep up the top posts! - Barnburner 1000 posts! Keep spreading knowledge. - JAB5239 1,000 posts - Scott9945 Great posting - joseph5620 
Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks Happy Holidays  Capaedia - !! AI-Holmes!! Happy holidays bro! - led* happy holidays to a good poster - Cleto_Reyes 
Default

I also think Roy Jones' chin was actually pretty good before he cut back down from HW. Not great, but not glass.

Hearns' reputation as a power puncher seems to have overshadowed just how quick his hands were, and how good he was at boxing (outboxing Leonard twice, as well as Benitez). His chin was also pretty good. Again, not great.

Floyd Mayweather at the lower weights had legitimate power.
Capaedia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 02:44 AM #3
TBear TBear is offline
Lords of Boxingscene
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: In the shadows of your dreams
Age: 94
Posts: 91,913
Quoted: 1958 Post(s)
Rep Power: 602
TBear has a reputation beyond reputeTBear has a reputation beyond reputeTBear has a reputation beyond reputeTBear has a reputation beyond reputeTBear has a reputation beyond reputeTBear has a reputation beyond reputeTBear has a reputation beyond reputeTBear has a reputation beyond reputeTBear has a reputation beyond reputeTBear has a reputation beyond reputeTBear has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 7,522.44
Bank: 193,680,794,887,627,772,788,736.00
Total Points: 193,680,794,887,627,772,788,736.00
Congratz on your promotion! - jazluvr it's all in a name :fing02: :lol1: - -jose- birf dae - Tago Nang Tago Thanks for the info - Enayze No Message - MDPopescu 
what up T! just driving by buddy :drive: :wave: - -jose- In lui of green - jazluvr I just read the green k message and of course I don't mind you my ninja! - -jose- Feliz Navidad amigo! - -jose- Merry Christmas - siablo14 
Merry Christmas, TBear! Love yah (No homo) - Kuyukut Merry Christmas, bud. - Sweet Pea 50 Belated Merry Christmas mate, hope you had a good one. - Brady_Blows12 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too T sorry it's late but I was away - -jose- Who came first, the Easter Bunny or the Easter egg? - !! AI-Holmes!! 
congrats! - -jose- Celebrating my son's 2 goals yesterday (he's 8) has 9 for the season one more game left - -jose- HBD - siablo14 Happy bday. Have a beer - -MEGA- Happy 4th and be lated birthday hermano! - -jose- 
Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - S A M U R A I Cancer - Epilepsy - Foster Care - Gynecological Cancer - Rett Syndrome - S A M U R A I Graves Disease - Lymphedema - Men's Health - Pro Choice - Prostate Cancer - Scleroderma - Thyroid Disease - Trisomy 18 - S A M U R A I Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - MANGLER Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - MANGLER 
Hodgkin's Disease - Testicular Cancer - MANGLER World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - !! AI-Holmes!! Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - cooper5 Emphysema - Lung Cancer - Lung Disease - Multiple Sclerosis - Izrock AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - Raider Monkz 
Head and Neck Cancer - Izrock Childhood Cancer - ??? Alzheimer's - Crohn's & Colitis - Cystic Fibrosis - Domestic Violence - Fibromyalgia - Leimyosarcoma - Lupus - ??? Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - Hard Dick Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Unknown Champ 
Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - BABYBOXER Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - codey Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - codey Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Daniel Alpha Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - Trudoe 
Default

I actually think John Tate did not deserve the bad chin rap he used to get. Yes he was stopped by Weaver and Berbick, but both stoppages were very late in the fights. Yes there was an conditioning problem as Tate stood to the punches early in the fights only to be iced in the late rounds. He also took the heavy punches of Kallie Knotzee and Gerrie Coetzee(although the Coetzee fight was held on what seemed to be an ice rink).

Perhaps the same thing might apply to Frank Bruno as people used to say he had a bad chin too.
TBear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 02:52 AM #4
Capaedia Capaedia is offline
JMM Stan
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 2,922
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 21
Capaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 143,850,535,516.27
Bank: 21,273,055,791,474.77
Total Points: 21,416,906,326,991.04
your pressie - McGoorty Keep up the top posts! - Barnburner 1000 posts! Keep spreading knowledge. - JAB5239 1,000 posts - Scott9945 Great posting - joseph5620 
Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks Happy Holidays  Capaedia - !! AI-Holmes!! Happy holidays bro! - led* happy holidays to a good poster - Cleto_Reyes 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TBear View Post
Perhaps the same thing might apply to Frank Bruno as people used to say he had a bad chin too.
I second this one. He took some pretty good shots from Tyson and Lewis.

I'd also like to nominate Foreman's stamina. He may have punched himself out, but that was more of an issue with his pacing than his stamina. I think his stamina in the Rumble in the Jungle was great. He was throwing hard punches and lots of them. Most if not all other fighters would've been long gone, shame the man opposite him was Ali.
Capaedia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 03:02 AM #5
Barn Barn is offline
TheTartanSoldier
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Scotland
Age: 21
Posts: 10,514
Quoted: 127 Post(s)
Rep Power: 63
Barn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 398,935,983,912,899,648.00
Bank: 763,984,171,160,681.88
Total Points: 399,699,968,084,060,352.00
Top Bloke! - mickey malone For your knowledge of boxing - sigrab jr Hell of a poster, very generous - BigStereotype the champ is here - New England wisdom - House of Stone 
For generosity and top posts! - Sugarj medal for your videos - New England The Greatest Vid : Barney the Great - McGoorty Keep up the top notch vids - JAB5239 To another of a select group of real boxing fans who really know their boxing history! - Terry A 
4 the uploads! - chiguy91 For you epic break down of Oreo's, and the Mayan calendar. lmaooooooooo - Sweet Pea 50 For the massive amount of points given - MindBat You're going to need it to beat me. - D-MiZe victory is sweet , rigotard and proud!! - HUGH JASS 
Rigonation badge of honor! - dan_cov your first post in the weed thread barn! , i know you don't smoke , keep it that way young one!! - HUGH JASS Boxingscene Chat room :fing02: - jose830 For the help buddy - Badzi87 You a Scot,Me a English and this lucky clover from Ireland.Best of luck m8. - HughGlass 
Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS) - NChristo Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - NChristo Childhood Cancer - NChristo Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - NChristo Hepatitis C - NChristo 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - NChristo Eating Disorders - Esophageal Cancer - Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease - Irritable Bowel Syndrome - Pulmonary Hypertension - NChristo Male Breast Cancer - Pregnancy Loss - Infant Loss - Sudden Infant Death - NChristo Autism - NChristo Emphysema - Lung Cancer - Lung Disease - Multiple Sclerosis - NChristo 
Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - NChristo Myasthenia Gravis - Ovarian Cancer - Sexual Assault - Substance Abuse - NChristo Hodgkin's Disease - Testicular Cancer - NChristo Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - NChristo World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - arraamis 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - chiguy91 Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - codey Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - codey Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - codey Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Daniel Alpha 
Default

Haglers boxing skills. Already made a video on this.

Joe Frazier right hand for obvious reasons.

Leonard's punching power and heart. Mostly people who don't know their history to be fair, saying he's a fairy and only there for the money and not got any bottle. Leonard was the real deal and he punched VERY hard at Welterweight.

Duran's heart. Ever since "No Mas" people would have a jive at Duran's heart. Completely forgetting all the times he went 14 rounds etc to knock people out in close fights. Forgetting he got up from a DeJesus left hook in the first round twice and won one of the bouts! Lets not forget Hearns, his corner was going to stop it after the first round but Duran said no. He didn't want pulled out.

Tyson, LaMotta etc. Short fighters jabs. I find the way they use their jabs impressive, it's a very very good cover for when they move at side and usually thrown at awkward angles to keep the boxer busy. Very under-rated tool for fighters like these and it's usually dismissed.

"Tyson wouldn't land on Wlad the jab would stop him." People forget when Tyson was to move inside he'd throw his own jab as he was doing so. Then if that gave him ample cover he would throw a hard punch or combo.
Barn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 03:03 AM #6
Barn Barn is offline
TheTartanSoldier
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Scotland
Age: 21
Posts: 10,514
Quoted: 127 Post(s)
Rep Power: 63
Barn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond reputeBarn has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 398,935,983,912,899,648.00
Bank: 763,984,171,160,681.88
Total Points: 399,699,968,084,060,352.00
Top Bloke! - mickey malone For your knowledge of boxing - sigrab jr Hell of a poster, very generous - BigStereotype the champ is here - New England wisdom - House of Stone 
For generosity and top posts! - Sugarj medal for your videos - New England The Greatest Vid : Barney the Great - McGoorty Keep up the top notch vids - JAB5239 To another of a select group of real boxing fans who really know their boxing history! - Terry A 
4 the uploads! - chiguy91 For you epic break down of Oreo's, and the Mayan calendar. lmaooooooooo - Sweet Pea 50 For the massive amount of points given - MindBat You're going to need it to beat me. - D-MiZe victory is sweet , rigotard and proud!! - HUGH JASS 
Rigonation badge of honor! - dan_cov your first post in the weed thread barn! , i know you don't smoke , keep it that way young one!! - HUGH JASS Boxingscene Chat room :fing02: - jose830 For the help buddy - Badzi87 You a Scot,Me a English and this lucky clover from Ireland.Best of luck m8. - HughGlass 
Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS) - NChristo Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - NChristo Childhood Cancer - NChristo Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - NChristo Hepatitis C - NChristo 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - NChristo Eating Disorders - Esophageal Cancer - Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease - Irritable Bowel Syndrome - Pulmonary Hypertension - NChristo Male Breast Cancer - Pregnancy Loss - Infant Loss - Sudden Infant Death - NChristo Autism - NChristo Emphysema - Lung Cancer - Lung Disease - Multiple Sclerosis - NChristo 
Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - NChristo Myasthenia Gravis - Ovarian Cancer - Sexual Assault - Substance Abuse - NChristo Hodgkin's Disease - Testicular Cancer - NChristo Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - NChristo World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - arraamis 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - chiguy91 Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - codey Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - codey Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - codey Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Daniel Alpha 
Default

I'll go for Lennox Lewis' chin as well. It was by no means the glass people make it out to be.
Barn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 05:53 AM #7
nomadman nomadman is offline
Eurasian gonna get you
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: the chilly plains of kazakhstan
Posts: 4,343
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 17
nomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,978,357.91
Bank: 4,343,720,645.64
Total Points: 4,354,699,003.55
For many, many excellent posts on this forum - ChopperRead one of our best posters - Freedom. Happy New Year - Freedom. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnburner View Post
I'll go for Lennox Lewis' chin as well. It was by no means the glass people make it out to be.
There are very few heavyweights at champion level who've ever had bonafide glass chins. Wlad's another one whose rep in this category is overexaggerated.

Lennox took on a murderer's row of big punchers and was only ever stopped twice, by guys he underestimated. I'd say his chin was pretty damn good.
nomadman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 05:56 AM #8
Capaedia Capaedia is offline
JMM Stan
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 2,922
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 21
Capaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond reputeCapaedia has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 143,850,535,516.27
Bank: 21,273,055,791,474.77
Total Points: 21,416,906,326,991.04
your pressie - McGoorty Keep up the top posts! - Barnburner 1000 posts! Keep spreading knowledge. - JAB5239 1,000 posts - Scott9945 Great posting - joseph5620 
Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks Happy Holidays  Capaedia - !! AI-Holmes!! Happy holidays bro! - led* happy holidays to a good poster - Cleto_Reyes 
Default

The punches that took out Lennox would probably have downed plenty of other champions, some for the count. Good call
Capaedia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 06:03 AM #9
Sceptic Sceptic is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,002
Quoted: 68 Post(s)
Rep Power: 65
Sceptic has a reputation beyond reputeSceptic has a reputation beyond reputeSceptic has a reputation beyond reputeSceptic has a reputation beyond reputeSceptic has a reputation beyond reputeSceptic has a reputation beyond reputeSceptic has a reputation beyond reputeSceptic has a reputation beyond reputeSceptic has a reputation beyond reputeSceptic has a reputation beyond reputeSceptic has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,295.68
Bank: 257,836,264,472.98
Total Points: 257,836,274,768.66
Cookie? - Very Rich Man Have a cold one! - komodo No Message - arraamis Thanks man - komodo Have another bro! - komodo 
thanks for the gift...here's some good luck - jose830 gift of luck - Jury drink up - MANGLER No Message - arraamis gift - MANGLER 
No Message - RossCA No Message - RossCA No Message - FkDaHtrs 
Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - komodo Childhood Cancer - arraamis Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Jury Cesarean Sections - Headaches - Hospice Care - Multiple Myeloma - MANGLER Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - arraamis 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - MANGLER Alzheimer's - Crohn's &amp; Colitis - Cystic Fibrosis - Domestic Violence - Fibromyalgia - Leimyosarcoma - Lupus - RossCA Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - RossCA Autism - RossCA Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - RossCA 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - RossCA Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - FkDaHtrs AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - FkDaHtrs Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - FkDaHtrs 
Default

This thread is a clever idea. I will give it some thought.
Sceptic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 06:18 AM #10
nomadman nomadman is offline
Eurasian gonna get you
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: the chilly plains of kazakhstan
Posts: 4,343
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 17
nomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond reputenomadman has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,978,357.91
Bank: 4,343,720,645.64
Total Points: 4,354,699,003.55
For many, many excellent posts on this forum - ChopperRead one of our best posters - Freedom. Happy New Year - Freedom. 
Default

Couple more:

- David Tua's handspeed (not footspeed, not brainspeed). In his prime his hands were very fast for a heavyweight, and always had bad intentions on them. When he fought Darroll Wilson he hit him with three left hooks in under a second, all solid shots. When he killed John Ruiz to death the shot which set it up was a wicked leaping left that caught Ruiz cold. He landed that shot a few times against Lennox as well who was generally pretty good at avoiding shots from shorter fighters.

- Evander's power. First man to drop Mercer, stunned Big George badly, stopped Tyson. Not bad for a CW.

- Bruno's chin. Someone already mentioned this but I'll reiterate it. His chin wasn't so much a problem as his stiffness, poor stamina and, occasionally, mentality. He could physically absorb a hard shot, but mentally he'd sometimes go to pieces which would lead to his downfall. Many of his stoppages came from repeated punches to the jaw which forced the ref to step in. Not a great jaw, obviously, but not a truly terrible one either.

- Wlad's heart. For some reason Wlad got this undeserved moniker and it's stuck. He's never quit in a fight, never mentally given up, and always tried to get up from knockdowns. Even against Sanders, where he was as close to getting knocked unconscious as he's ever come, he was struggling to get up.

- Mercer's jab. I think this is one of the best heavyweight jabs of all time but it's so rarely mentioned. He outjabbed Lennox and was matching jabs with a prime Wlad at age 40. Anyone that can do that has to be at least considered among great jabbers.
nomadman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This With Friends

Tags
fighter, misjudged, qualities

User Tag List

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump


 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:25 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.