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Old 06-24-2019, 01:04 PM #111
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Size advantage and he cheated the scales...against a little guy moving up 2 weight classes.
It's almost pointless to point this obvious fact out now because it's clear some want to ignore because they are Floyd fans. No other person would ignore this.
Lomo fans don't even.go on about his win over rigo. Yet 10 years on people still going on about Floyd s win?

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Old 06-24-2019, 01:38 PM #112
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Floyd and JMM were closer in size than Floyd vs Canelo, Oscar, or Baldomir. Floyd spent the last decade of his career, mostly fighting much bigger guys because he was chasing a challenge and the money. Floyd is 5-8 and could have spent his whole career KOing and shutting out 135 lb fighters, but he went and challenged himself. Floyd had maybe 5 pounds on JMM, that's a fair fight, and size had nothing to do with the result, Floyd used speed and skill to beat JMM. JMM is the one who called him out too, if he wouldn't have fought him his haters would be calling duck.

Floyd couldn't make the lower catch weight so he paid a fine and the fight went on, it still took place a legit weight limit. As others have pointed out, Floyd has had a verified weight of 150 lbs walking into the ring most of the last half of his career, it wasn't like he was re-hydrating to 165 like some welters do. Weight doesn't tarnish that win at all. Christ, some people were calling for Mayweather to fight GGG or even Andre Ward, but those same people get bent out of shape that he accepted JMM's challenge.
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Old 06-24-2019, 01:41 PM #113
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Maybe because Márquez jumped 12 pounds and Floyd was like 10 pounds heavier

That fight was sh.it.

Best division of Márquez was 126, 130 and 135


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Tremendous performance. Marquez proved he was a quality WW a few years later by knocking out Pacquiao and competing with Bradley in a tight fight.

Floyd blowing off the catchweight was unnecessary though. Still at the WW limit, but he should have made 144. Oh well, definitely was a great performance even against a smaller fighter when you consider he was off for almost two years.

Stu.pid

Márquez first fight in 147 was a jump of 135-147 and Floyd was like 10 pounds heavier
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Old 06-24-2019, 01:42 PM #114
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Size advantage and he cheated the scales...against a little guy moving up 2 weight classes.
Exactly...

Márquez accepted because he was a Warrior and wanted money
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Old 06-24-2019, 01:44 PM #115
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Maybe because Márquez jumped 12 pounds and Floyd was like 10 pounds heavier

That fight was sh.it.

Best division of Márquez was 126, 130 and 135

Stu.pid

Márquez first fight in 147 was a jump of 135-147 and Floyd was like 10 pounds heavier
I didn't say Marquez's best weight classes weren't at 135 or below. I just said he proved to be a quality WW after the Floyd fight. And then mentioned Floyd would have gotten more credit for the win if he fought Marquez AFTER his fights with Pacquiao/Bradley.
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Floyd and JMM were closer in size than Floyd vs Canelo, Oscar, or Baldomir. Floyd spent the last decade of his career, mostly fighting much bigger guys because he was chasing a challenge and the money. Floyd is 5-8 and could have spent his whole career KOing and shutting out 135 lb fighters, but he went and challenged himself. Floyd had maybe 5 pounds on JMM, that's a fair fight, and size had nothing to do with the result, Floyd used speed and skill to beat JMM. JMM is the one who called him out too, if he wouldn't have fought him his haters would be calling duck.

Floyd couldn't make the lower catch weight so he paid a fine and the fight went on, it still took place a legit weight limit. As others have pointed out, Floyd has had a verified weight of 150 lbs walking into the ring most of the last half of his career, it wasn't like he was re-hydrating to 165 like some welters do. Weight doesn't tarnish that win at all. Christ, some people were calling for Mayweather to fight GGG or even Andre Ward, but those same people get bent out of shape that he accepted JMM's challenge.
Canelo beat Cotto with skills and speed and you were crying about they fight.

And Floyd was at least 10 pounds heavier than Márquez

Stop with your sh.it.

And Floyd did not make the weight


This fight was one of the worst in history when you talked about weight advantages

Rey Vargas is taller than Márquez and has more reach

And?
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What a spectacular one sided display put on by Mayweather that fight. Marquez tried his best to get something going, even hit Mayweather with some very good shots, but Mayweather took them and smiled, but when Mayweather hit him, Marquez went TIMBER!!!!

Pacquaio went through 4 very tough wars with Marquez. It it only took Mayweather 1 fight.

Very underrated and overlooked win.

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Gotta disagree with you, Marquez gave Floyd mad props.. do you read Spanish? Jose Luis Castillo deserved a draw at the min, he beat Floyd in my opinion.
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Old 06-24-2019, 01:48 PM #118
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Canelo beat Cotto with skills and speed and you were crying about they fight.

And Floyd was at least 10 pounds heavier than Márquez

Stop with your sh.it.

And Floyd did not make the weight


This fight was one of the worst in history when you talked about weight advantages

Rey Vargas is taller than Márquez and has more reach

And?
Castilllo beat Floyd, in my un-humble opinion.
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I didn't say Marquez's best weight classes weren't at 135 or below. I just said he proved to be a quality WW after the Floyd fight. And then mentioned Floyd would have gotten more credit for the win if he fought Marquez AFTER his fights with Pacquiao/Bradley.
He proven that after this fight, a lot of years.

And Márquez worked his body, he was much more fit and strong in the fights vs Bradley or Pacquiao

Floyd fight it was the first and he jumped 12, pounds

Only a stupid guy or a fanboy can say this was a good win

And i'm a fan of Floyd but this fight was garbage

Like Trinidad or Óscar vs Hopkins
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He proven that after this fight, a lot of years.

And Márquez worked his body, he was much more fit and strong in the fights vs Bradley or Pacquiao

Floyd fight it was the first and he jumped 12, pounds

Only a stupid guy or a fanboy can say this was a good win

And i'm a fan of Floyd but this fight was garbage

Like Trinidad or Óscar vs Hopkins
Trinidad was a good win for BHop regardless of what people say now. Let's not ignore facts and how BHop was a decent sized underdog heading into that fight. Trinidad had just destroyed another top 5 MW in Joppy the fight prior.

Fair point on Marquez working on his body afterwards. But doesn't mean it wasn't a tremendous performance by Floyd. Tremendous performance =/= tremendous win.
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